OK THIS IS GETTING TO BE B.S!!!!!!

[Rootus]

what is your 13.3 run with the 95?what all is done to the 95 you have

Everything but boost . AFR 165's, custom cam, Edelbrock intake, plus all of the supporting mods (TB, MAF, exhaust, and so on). Traction and driver limited to 13.3 .

Dave

 

[WaterPog]

when you're setting the pinion angle you really need to have the car supported on all 4 by the tires and level. If you start jacking it up on one end or the other it will change the location of the rearend in the car and you won't be able to get it set correctly.

 

[wicked93]

talk to chung he does the tuning on the chips at blue oval he burns them himself and will work with you to get it right. and yes the car needs to be level to set pinion angle correctly. I am not sure what the angle needs to be but you need some tools to get it done pog knows more about that than I do, in fact I need to set mine on my car since I was all over the track last year and I run a very large tire a 28x13.5 ET Street to be exact and I was only getting 1.71 60 ft and an 11.16 @ 127.9 so I was leaving alot on the table plus I need to hook up with someone who has a set of scales to weight the car on all 4 points before I go to the track next year. the race gas will only hurt performance if you do not need it but I have to agree it does smell good the removale of the front sway bar will help but it drives like crap just make sure to leave the rear sway bar on as it helps the car leave. if you are thinking about getting a chip I would wait until you get the cam, heads etc... so it is optimized for that combo and ask jeff what cam he recomends if you are going to tune with a chip if you can run a larger cam such as the tfs 1 or 2 the reason I like the tfs products is that they are one of the least expensive and make the same amount of power or more as some of the more expensive peices out there.

 

[SMOKEDYA]

when you're setting the pinion angle you really need to have the car supported on all 4 by the tires and level. If you start jacking it up on one end or the other it will change the location of the rearend in the car and you won't be able to get it set correctly.

duh i guess i should'nt of opened my mouth so soon i read the instructions and yes it say car must be level SMOKEDYA<~~~ freakin idiot lol. i got all the stuff i need as far as i know i bought an angle finder when i bought them but just never got around to doing it plus all the wrenches i need to do it with. thank's peace


john

 

[SMOKEDYA]

talk to chung he does the tuning on the chips at blue oval he burns them himself and will work with you to get it right. and yes the car needs to be level to set pinion angle correctly. I am not sure what the angle needs to be but you need some tools to get it done pog knows more about that than I do, in fact I need to set mine on my car since I was all over the track last year and I run a very large tire a 28x13.5 ET Street to be exact and I was only getting 1.71 60 ft and an 11.16 @ 127.9 so I was leaving alot on the table plus I need to hook up with someone who has a set of scales to weight the car on all 4 points before I go to the track next year. the race gas will only hurt performance if you do not need it but I have to agree it does smell good the removale of the front sway bar will help but it drives like crap just make sure to leave the rear sway bar on as it helps the car leave. if you are thinking about getting a chip I would wait until you get the cam, heads etc... so it is optimized for that combo and ask jeff what cam he recomends if you are going to tune with a chip if you can run a larger cam such as the tfs 1 or 2 the reason I like the tfs products is that they are one of the least expensive and make the same amount of power or more as some of the more expensive peices out there.

well i already have a cam in it but not to shure of the size i think it is an E303 but not shure cause it came in it? we have scales at work do you live close to or work by swan island?peace

john

 

[SMOKEDYA]

so by getting the wide band done it should help a little bit shouldnt it? peace


john

 

[loud 95]

It seems that everyone wants to get their two cents in on this thread...even people that have little knowledge of '94 and '95 stangs. I have a '95 GT with a stage 1 TFS cam. It has not been tuned, and has stock mass-air and injectors. Needless to say, it runs very well. This is not something I have heard from someone else...it is the actual state of the car, so ignore cam related bs.
As for your car...the most restrictive pair of components on the engine are the heads. A close second is the intake/throttle body system. You can perform all the bolt-ons you want, and will eventually plateau on your e.t.'s because you have not addressed these parts.
Purchase heads, cam, intake and have a professional tune performed on the car. I recommend the TFS package.

 

[ddonaca351]

There's no set rule on what the stock EEC will take before it freaks out. A friend of mine just had AFP install the TFS street kit on his 95 GT vert. To try and keep the EEC happy, he swapped out the TFS stage 1 cam for a Steeda #19, which is specifically designed with a wide LSA to keep good vacuum at idle. But his EEC freaked anyway, and he had to get a chip to make it run correctly.

As for what you can tune out with a chip -- the answer is anything. My cam has a good amount of overlap and makes very low vacuum at idle (nice lope though ) -- with the stock EEC my car won't run at all. You turn the key, it starts, it immediately stalls. With my TwEECer I have it tuned so it basically runs fine, occasionally it surges a little on warm start-up, but otherwise runs better than it did when stock.

Dave

Hey Dave,

you might try pulling a *little* fuel out of the startup fuel table (if 94/5s have one ) not too much, may-be a .1 a/f leaner for target. Usually the surge is a rich mix (not always, but usually) could be tb air numbers, but that typically affects all the time, not just hot start.

Dave (the OTHER one)

 

[ddonaca351]

It seems that everyone wants to get their two cents in on this thread...even people that have little knowledge of '94 and '95 stangs. I have a '95 GT with a stage 1 TFS cam. It has not been tuned, and has stock mass-air and injectors. Needless to say, it runs very well. This is not something I have heard from someone else...it is the actual state of the car, so ignore cam related bs.
As for your car...the most restrictive pair of components on the engine are the heads. A close second is the intake/throttle body system. You can perform all the bolt-ons you want, and will eventually plateau on your e.t.'s because you have not addressed these parts.
Purchase heads, cam, intake and have a professional tune performed on the car. I recommend the TFS package.

So if your car ran/runs so good with a TFS stage one in it, why do you need the twEECer.... hhhmmmmmmmmmm?????



Dave-

 

[loud 95]

The twEECer has not been installed yet, and the computer is untouched. Should I have you take six months or more to tune it like you did on yours? Just kidding. I purchased the twEECer so I could occasionally run nitrous, as well as transfer the engine into my truck, with an AOD.

 

[ddonaca351]

Yeah it does take me a long time to tune... with work / home / kid / etc I only have about one day every other week for my car (the Sunday on my long week when Cort is at her moms). That and not having a wideband also makes it more dificult. But the car was pretty easy to tune, in that: It was 95% in the first four or five weeks, but I could never get (and still havent) got rid of the idle wanting to miss its setpoint and dip/surge durring rappid downshifting to a stop. (but only durring downshifting)


Its an ongoing thing... I get side-tracked on other projects like the groundeffects and hood, and the paintjob, and the motor in my dads truck, etc... but Ill get back to it one of these days.
...and then there are the new amps for the stereo, and the new sub-box to go with em', and then there is my fastback which still needs the brake upgrade finnished (94+ cobra brakes on a 70), and the paint, and ....etc, then in my spare time I train, lift, and keep a 2000 sq.ft. house up to speed, by myself.

If I could just get em to put about 6 more hours in each day, I could get it all done in no time.

Oh well... such is life.
Dave-

 

[SMOKEDYA]

hummmmmmm well i'm making the trip down to jeff's and chungs today to see what they have to say bout the deal. peace


john