Opinions/advice on my 95 project

revhead347 · Nov 3, 2011

Here is the Chinese one that is 70mm.

Professional Products 54151 - Professional Products EFI Intake Elbow Adapters - Overview - SummitRacing.com

And the not Chinese one that is 75mm. BKK and Edelbrock also make them.

Trick Flow Specialties TFS-5150SN95 - Trick Flow® SN95 Throttle Body Adapters - Overview - SummitRacing.com

The only truly effective way to lower the compression ratio is to change the pistons. Everything else doesn't make enough difference to be worth it. I would just leave it the way it is, or if you are dying to get more power out of it, throw the nitrous at it. If you boost that big 408, be ready to drop about $6K on a transmission, and $2K on a rear end.

Kurt

JonezySN95 · Nov 3, 2011

Yea I guess you're right. It def wouldn't be in the near future. I'm just going with it the way he has it setup now and enjoy the car for a while, but I already know what is going to happen. I will get used to the power in a year or so and start planning for more power lol. I had a 2003 GSXR 1000 and ran 9.81@143mph and it still felt slow . besides speed I am wanting something not seen to often like twin turbos lol. There is probably a reason I dont see too many that way though. I like the nitrouse idea though. I have thought of that as well and im wondering if that new nitrouse plate for carbs from ZEX would fit under the elbow? Never the less I will just start with his motor and have fun with it first. Who knows I may just be happy the way it is

JonezySN95 · Nov 3, 2011

revhead347 said:
Here is the Chinese one that is 70mm.

Professional Products 54151 - Professional Products EFI Intake Elbow Adapters - Overview - SummitRacing.com

And the not Chinese one that is 75mm. BKK and Edelbrock also make them.

Trick Flow Specialties TFS-5150SN95 - Trick Flow® SN95 Throttle Body Adapters - Overview - SummitRacing.com

The only truly effective way to lower the compression ratio is to change the pistons. Everything else doesn't make enough difference to be worth it. I would just leave it the way it is, or if you are dying to get more power out of it, throw the nitrous at it. If you boost that big 408, be ready to drop about $6K on a transmission, and $2K on a rear end.

Kurt

Thats not the elbow im talking about. I need one for an intake like this...

Edelbrock Super Victor EFI Intake Manifold (4500-8500 rpm) - Ford 351W with 9.5 deck [EDE-29245] - $367.85 : Powered By Ford - #1 Source for Mustang performance parts and Ford car or truck parts, When you want it done right and done well there is onl

It should look like this, but will fit the 351w intake and not restrict my airflow...

Edelbrock 3847 EFI Intake Elbow Ultra Low Profile

And hopefully this would fit on it. It would be kinda cool and unique I think...

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ZEX-82072

psychorugby · Nov 3, 2011

BlackVert said:
wait a minute ... didn't you just say you wanted a "somewhat good streetable car"? a big old nasty cam does not fit with that goal ... just saying ...

the picture in my avatar is my engine.

my motor has AFR 205 heads, comp pro magnum rockers, and accufab mid length headers. the cam is custom ground for mid range torque because mine is a 100% street car and my driving habits hardly ever take me to 5000 rpm. it is EFI, with a TwEECer tuning system that used to tune it myself. it also has a polished alternator, polished AC compressor, polished water pump, and march brackets, and a BBK 75mm throttle body.

the intake on it is currently a polished pro products typhoon, which is certain to be the biggest air flow restriction. again, mine is a street car and i was going more for bling the bang. i also have a edelbrock junior victor lower (converted for EFI) that i was planning on putting on with an intake elbow, but with the fairlane, my focus has shifted and i never got around to picking out an elbow and putting it all together. i'd throw in the jr victor.

i have never taken it to a dyno. my guess is that the torque would be through the roof from before 3000 up to 5000 rpm, but the top end numbers would probably disappoint because of the typhoon. with the other intake on there, it would most likely put down 400+ to the wheels.

i'd let it go for $5000.

Good God I wish I had $5,000 laying around. This would end the motor talk in my thread.

BlackVert · Nov 3, 2011

i was thinking along the lines of something like these:

Edelbrock.com - EFI - Intake Elbows

BlackVert · Nov 3, 2011

psychorugby said:
Good God I wish I had $5,000 laying around. This would end the motor talk in my thread.

heh, thanks. get in line behind jonezy

if i were where you are now, having been through it and knowing what i know now, i'd do what i mentioned in the other thread ... get a stock 351 and do only the things needed to get it in the car and running. then i'd look into the upgrades and stroking it down the road. in the meantime, while it might not be everything you want yet, the "new" 351 would still more fun than the 302 that was in there before.

eventually, you can pull it and make it into the bad boy you want.

JonezySN95 · Nov 3, 2011

BlackVert said:
i was thinking along the lines of something like these:

Edelbrock.com - EFI - Intake Elbows

Oooo that's perty I guess I should have asked you in the pm but I knew you were busy and didnt think of it at the time. So do you think I could face it forward like that? I dont see why not and it would look pretty cool when I pop the hood

psychorugby · Nov 3, 2011

BlackVert said:
heh, thanks. get in line behind jonezy

if i were where you are now, having been through it and knowing what i know now, i'd do what i mentioned in the other thread ... get a stock 351 and do only the things needed to get it in the car and running. then i'd look into the upgrades and stroking it down the road. in the meantime, while it might not be everything you want yet, the "new" 351 would still more fun than the 302 that was in there before.

eventually, you can pull it and make it into the bad boy you want.

I'm already scouring my U Pull yards... This motor you're selling is just beautiful.

revhead347 · Nov 3, 2011

JonezySN95 said:
Thats not the elbow im talking about. I need one for an intake like this...

Edelbrock Super Victor EFI Intake Manifold (4500-8500 rpm) - Ford 351W with 9.5 deck [EDE-29245] - $367.85 : Powered By Ford - #1 Source for Mustang performance parts and Ford car or truck parts, When you want it done right and done well there is onl

It should look like this, but will fit the 351w intake and not restrict my airflow...

Edelbrock 3847 EFI Intake Elbow Ultra Low Profile

And hopefully this would fit on it. It would be kinda cool and unique I think...

Zex Nitrous Oxide Systems 82072 - ZEX Perimeter Plates - Overview - SummitRacing.com

You're looking for something called a spider intake. Those intakes are for super high revving drag cars. They aren't very friendly on the street. If you are still considering the nitrous system, NOS makes plates that fit between the upper and lower plenum of just about every aftermarket fuel injection manifold. I generally build my nitrous systems custom. Check out dynotunenitrous.com. Those guys were right up the street from where I used to live in FL.

Kurt

BlackVert · Nov 3, 2011

pointing it straight, the distributor would be in the way, unless you do the e-dis mod which essentially removes the dizzy

kurt, this thing has enough low end torque that, with the right gearing, it will still be able to break the tires loose easily. i wouldn't worry about low end torque loss.

BlackVert · Nov 3, 2011

psychorugby said:
I'm already scouring my U Pull yards... This motor you're selling is just beautiful.

thanks ...

i wish it still looked like that, but after a few years in the engine bay, it is not so clean as that any more

i will clean it up as best i can before it goes out though

revhead347 · Nov 3, 2011

BlackVert said:
kurt, this thing has enough low end torque that, with the right gearing, it will still be able to break the tires loose easily. i wouldn't worry about low end torque loss.

I wouldn't worry about the torque loss, more like the idling at 1500 rpm, and being very tempermental.

Kurt

JonezySN95 · Nov 4, 2011

revhead347 said:
I wouldn't worry about the torque loss, more like the idling at 1500 rpm, and being very tempermental.

Kurt

Uh oh lol. Well it's not going to be a DD just a toy around on the weekend car, but I dont want any stop light issues either. I'll just use the intake he has on it for a while and see how I like it. Remember im going from a gt40p motor to a stoken beast so im guessing close to double th hp. It will take some getting used to anyways before I think about upgrading for more power. Besides I should probably turn my focus on the rest of the car. What is a 400+ hp car if the tranny or the rearend it blown out.

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