Our motor only weights 10lbs lighter than the 5.0??

Lx89Stang05 · Feb 16, 2004

http://www.team.net/sol/tech/engine.html
i was just searching around for 2.0 pinto motor stuff and i found out that the 2.3turbo is 10lbs lighter than the 5.0. is this right or wrong??

Anlushac11 · Feb 16, 2004

Wrong.

A complete bare 2.3L motor without accesories weighs 306lbs. A fully "dressed" 2.3L with alternator, power steering, air pump, brackets, etc. weighs in at 425lbs.

A complete bare 289/302 weighs in at about 460lbs. and a "dressed" 302 weighs in at about 550lbs.

nomuffler · Feb 16, 2004

Have you weighed them? I'm just curious where those #s are from.

(&) · Feb 16, 2004

I've heard that a carbed 302 with aluminum heads is lighter than a stock 2.3T. That's not really important since it's not a stock vs. stock comparison, and who wants to run a carb? But I thought it was interesting.

Even if it's true, all the extra space in the front of my engine compartment leads me to believe that the weight distribution would always be better with the 2.3, and to me that's more important than just how much it weighs.

a351Must2 · Feb 16, 2004

I haven't believed any of the weights I've read on the internet for a long time.

I can lift an assembled 2.3L shortblock to put it on an engine stand by myself.
With one other person, I've lifted an assembled 2.3L N/A into the back of a Volkswagon Rabbit.

I struggle to even drag around a BARE smallblock Ford block.

Also, one 2.3L cast iron head weighs about the same as 1 smallblock head.

Between the difference in weight of the block/rotating assembly + half the number of heads, I can't see the weights coming even close... Then there's the fact you can throw a V8 into a 2.3L Mustang II without changing front springs and effectively lower the front 2", and the noticeable handling difference between a V8 Mustang and a 2.3L Mustang which doesn't feel like a 20lb difference.

GTPhreak · Feb 16, 2004

(&) said:
and who wants to run a carb?

people who want to make hp cheap. and mostly people who swap to v8's. the simplicity of it is eye catching

nomuffler · Feb 16, 2004

(&) said:
Even if it's true, all the extra space in the front of my engine compartment leads me to believe that the weight distribution would always be better with the 2.3, and to me that's more important than just how much it weighs.

it can't be more than an inch or two shorter. I mean they're both 4-cyls in length front to back. I guess it'd be better but it doesn't seem like it would be that signifigant.

bhuff30 · Feb 16, 2004

That list is a bunch of garbage. it doesn't show what is included in the wieght.
It is very likly that the 2.3 was fully dressed with starter, alt, and flywheel, where as the 5.0 was probably just a long block. I thought Anlushac's numbers looked quite accurate.

Pro-Hawk · Feb 16, 2004

nomuffler said:
Have you weighed them? I'm just curious where those #s are from.

Here is a link to a chart with #s

http://www.241computers.com/ford/ContentExpress20-30-38.html

Anlushac11 · Feb 16, 2004

LOL it lists 4 different weights for the 2.3L?

And the 2 turbo motors are 75lbs difference?

Mustang5L5 · Feb 16, 2004

(&) said:
who wants to run a carb?

My '85 is carbed...and that's the way it should be.

So cheap and easy to build it this motor was.

radartec · Feb 16, 2004

Mustang5L5 said:
My '85 is carbed...and that's the way it should be.

So cheap and easy to build it this motor was.

And I run a carb'ed 2.3L Turbo. I don't have any complaints with it.

Pro-Hawk · Feb 16, 2004

Anlushac11 said:
LOL it lists 4 different weights for the 2.3L?

And the 2 turbo motors are 75lbs difference?

Don't look at me I didn't make the site lol

I'm sure its based on three 2.3Ts, one carbed, two EFI and third EFI W/IC. The N/A 2.3L is probly the same one older and two the newer DP verison. This is just my best guess on that chart

I would guess there is about 50-75lb difference between a 2.3T and a 5.0L . There are different things that effect the weigh I'm sure ,like EFI or carb etc, but that is all I could find on the motor weigh differences.

Ray III · Feb 16, 2004

a351Must2 said:
I haven't believed any of the weights I've read on the internet for a long time.

werd...

the way to find out is with a bathroom scale and a motor in your hands, or out of a service manual, not from some kid on the internet who heard from his friend who heard from his uncle who heard from his mechanic who heard from his brother that when he lifted the motor it felt like about ____ pounds.

(&) · Feb 17, 2004

nomuffler said:
it can't be more than an inch or two shorter. I mean they're both 4-cyls in length front to back. I guess it'd be better but it doesn't seem like it would be that signifigant.

Good call, but I could probably step inside the front of the engine compartment with my 2.3L, and I've never seen a 5.0 with that much room up front...

chaka · Feb 17, 2004

(&) said:
Good call, but I could probably step inside the front of the engine compartment with my 2.3L, and I've never seen a 5.0 with that much room up front...

I did stand in front of it. Removed the fan first though. No way I was getting in front of a 5.0

MSM0075 · Feb 17, 2004

(&) said:
...and who wants to run a carb?

My '82GT has a carb. Why woulden't you want to run carb? Sure they can be tough to tune perfectlly but if you dont have the money to convert your 5.0, for example, to EFI and on top of that MAF (Retail $500+), then why NOT run carb? People do it to save time and money, and some prefer carb over fuel injection.

conor · Feb 17, 2004

Carbs are easy. You don't have to understand fuel/air mixture tuning on a dyno with an aftermarket ECU in order to have a good running engine.

I didn't say that EFI is worse than carbs (if it was, it wouldn't have become the standard for modern engines). When tuning a small engine to its highest potential, EFI and a custom ECU lets you do that a lot more precisely than more/less/different carbs

Boss 351 · Feb 17, 2004

I don't think there is a 10lb difference since the branch I hooked my chain block to only lowed by an inch and with a V8, it will lower by 2 inches... So according to my branch twisting calculations there is an 80 lb difference lol

And yeah carbs are great I am going CFI for now because to keep EFI on a stroker engine, I'd need a custom ECU, larger injectors, MAF, TB, etc... The list goes on and on... So something like a 408 V8 engine with good heads, etc... won't cause people to think "poor guy is on carb'd power" lol.

Anlushac11 · Feb 17, 2004

When I had my 86LX and was going to install EFI I was looking at $700+in wiring harness, computer, intake, fuel pump, mass air, injectors, etc.

84 Mustang GT 4bbl intake off ebay $50, 600cfm Holley 4bbl off ebay $50.00, dual snorkel air cleaner $35

If the car had come with a 5.0L EFI I would keep it but for me it wasnt worth the hassle to upgrade to EFI and I sure didnt have the money.

Our motor only weights 10lbs lighter than the 5.0??

Lx89Stang05

Anlushac11

nomuffler

Member

(&)

a351Must2

Windsor II

GTPhreak

nomuffler

Member

bhuff30

Pro-Hawk

New Member

Anlushac11

Mustang5L5

That is…until I whipped out my Bissell

radartec

Pro-Hawk

New Member

Ray III

New Member

(&)

chaka

MSM0075

Member

conor

New Member

Boss 351

Here sthhhhhhhheeeve take a picthh of my man flowe

Anlushac11

Similar threads

Our motor only weights 10lbs lighter than the 5.0??

Member

Windsor II

Member

New Member

That is…until I whipped out my Bissell

New Member

New Member

Member

New Member

Here sthhhhhhhheeeve take a picthh of my man flowe

Similar threads

Privacy & Transparency

Privacy & Transparency