Fox body Mustangs Facebook page I believe.
I really enjoyed the second video. I've used the Holley system on a couple cars now and the self-tuning, while it has its shortfalls, is literally idiot proof. Which I certainly put to the test lol. Carbs are stupid, I'd like it put on my headstoneI'll just leave these two videos here. Both from Motor Trend/Hot Rod.
Beyond the made-up rankings ("chicks dig it"?), EFI was +13 HP and +5 ft/lbs. over carb on the same engine.
Two guys tune their cars, then have them tuned by a pro on a dyno, and the guy with the smallest difference between the two wins. The carb guy spends the whole video tweaking and gets all dirty, yet still ends up 20 HP short of the pro tuner. The EFI guy sets his computer to auto-learn and spends the rest of the video playing Solitaire, and still comes within 5 HP of the tuner's total.
Not that I'd know; my great tuning achievement was to keep my car from stalling at idle... most of the time. But they seem like relevant videos.
Knuckledragger, huh? Yeah! Well.....you're momma's ugly.....and fat too! So shut up.uuhhh each has there place, on a trailered racecar a carb is fine i suppose... on anything else EFI is king.
Carbs= knuckle-draggers oh wait we have a carb on the racecar......
Knuckledragger, huh? Yeah! Well.....you're momma's ugly.....and fat too! So shut up.
Knuckledragger, huh? Yeah! Well.....you're momma's ugly.....and fat too! So shut up.
Well...... so... and?Knuckledragger, huh? Yeah! Well.....you're momma's ugly.....and fat too! So shut up.
Fox body Mustangs Facebook page I believe.
**Sigh**
......................Where do I even start?
How does any, self respecting "car guy" justify the benefits of EFI over a carburetor solely because it's "idiot proof" and that "it does the tuning for you"?
Let me put that in context...
"Hmmmm,......what to do,...what to do. I need a fuel metering system, but I'm conflicted. While ordinarily, I'd take offense, the simple truth when looking at my capabilities in working on, and in tuning a car is that I'm an idiot, I'm lazy."
Guess that I'd better play it safe and buy a self learning EFI system then, and pay a guy to install it for me.
What a crock of sht.
The fact of the matter for me is now that I have a "self learning EFI" system,....I may as well be an idiot. I would venture to say that most of the respondents here would be in the same boat if they had to try and figure out what is wrong when their aftermarket system has an issue and they don't have a "CHECK ENGINE" light glowing on the dash so they can plug in an OBD code scanner to tell them what to fix.
If everybody didn't have that benefit,....the score for EFI would fall off of a cliff.
Just like with every other system we have in daily life, if a computer fails, or one of its data collecting sensors stop collecting data.....Things crash.
You end up standing in line because they can't check you out,....Your check didn't post, you didn't get paid, or any one of a dozen other computer based "hanging chads" stops your guy from getting elected...
Here in this context,........you're dead in the water,...or your junk runs like junk.
Look at a carburetor for what it is.....An amazing machine,...that for the most part (as evidenced in Vid 1) was right, right out of the box for the most part. It ran on the dual plane manifold that the EFI system absolutely would not. And despite the antics in the second Vid of the big guy,...I'll take the old school process of making the engine run at it's peak anyday.
Carburetors have been used since a car was first made,..and they have evolved to be really amazing devices.
The false common consensus that you are constantly having to dick with them,..is purely that,......false.
You get the correct unit when you buy it,....you put it on the engine,....you do simple tuning (That most here may or may not have ever done), and you're done..........for years. No codes,.....no sensors giving out faulty readings,.....easy, peasy.
Unless you've dealt with a carburetor,...you don't have a dog in the fight.
As for the idiots on Facebook,............I don't get on facebook.
There's nothing but a bunch of idiots there taking pictures of food.
See the pic below,.....that's me,...looking at a spark plug,...it's what you do when you're trying to tune a car w/o the benefit of a laptop,.....not dirty,...not sweating,....
It's kind of funny how from 1908 up until about 1985-87 production cars ran those terrible carbs. I owned several... That never needed adjusting. And I never had the frustration of a pcm spitting out codes that weren't actually the root of the problem. Carbs are outdated, but they came on production cars for the better part of a century.. How on earth could that happen if they are junk?
Now I've got a tendency to think that your posts are directed at me, which in this case I would be lead to believe I'm correct.How does any, self respecting "car guy" justify the benefits of EFI over a carburetor solely because it's "idiot proof" and that "it does the tuning for you"?
...I'll take the old school process of making the engine run at it's peak anyday.
Carburetors have been used since a car was first made,..and they have evolved to be really amazing devices.
In general id agree. I'm in some excellent car groups on Facebook though. It's the only reason I haven't given it up entirely.BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
There is NOTHING worth reading on FB that isn't a meme.
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