Picking up a new 04 Cobra tommorrow...am I excited BOY HOWDIE

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Ok,

I was doing a little research on moding my 99 GT and thought to myself. "Dude you are going to pay 4K for any serious power period. And at that you putting your ride at risk. i.e. rods and heads and possible intake manifold."

So I was like hmmmmm what about a Mach I.....then I found out that Ford is droping the price on the Cobras $6,000. I crap you not. A full on $6,000 so the end all beat all price is $30,335. HOT DAMN! Crap you can get a new Mach I for $25,500. Who knows I may walk out with a Mach I....well I know I can't walk out. The one I want is in Washington State. The only one. LOL

But you can't throw a stick at my local dealers with out hitting an SVT Cobra.

QUESTION: Should I have the SVT dealer put any additional FRPP parts on as part of the sale? Meaning Gears, Pullies etc....

Thanks,

Happy Eric :flag:
 
You don't need gears and I doubt a delaer would install that or a pulley for you and not void your warranty. If you are not a serious speed freak or drag racer, the 03-04 Cobras have all the power you will ever need. Stock you will have around 370 rwhp and with $500 for a pulley and Predator tuner you will be sitting at around 420 rwhp. Add a $500 exhaust and $100 CAI or cone filter setup and you are around 450 rwhp. If you drag race at the strip a lot, like me, you won't like the Independent Rear Suspension. If you only do it occasionally, then the IRS will be great for you in the curves and ride comfort.

Be warned the level of power and how easy these cars are to modify makes for an expensive combination...

That said, buy the Cobra, you won't be sorry. They do have problems though. Its a great car, problem is, it was built by Ford...
 
Dude you are in Clackamas? I'm in Saint Helens!

NICE!

Are we saying that we have been introduced recently to Portlands finest? :rlaugh:

Yeah highway 30 is a freaking speed trap!

I'm in Saint Helens, OR going into Town and Country and Thomasons tommorrow. I got preapproval and I'm stoked.

I agree with you. Personally I feel 350rwhp is enough for me. But crap the extra love is just bubbling out for free!

What problems my man?

Yeah I heard the shifter is questionable....ergonomicaly speaking. And what mods do you suggest first? The pully? :spot:
 
jordanvraptor said:
You don't need gears and I doubt a delaer would install that or a pulley for you and not void your warranty. If you are not a serious speed freak or drag racer, the 03-04 Cobras have all the power you will ever need. Stock you will have around 370 rwhp and with $500 for a pulley and Predator tuner you will be sitting at around 420 rwhp. Add a $500 exhaust and $100 CAI or cone filter setup and you are around 450 rwhp. If you drag race at the strip a lot, like me, you won't like the Independent Rear Suspension. If you only do it occasionally, then the IRS will be great for you in the curves and ride comfort.

Be warned the level of power and how easy these cars are to modify makes for an expensive combination...

That said, buy the Cobra, you won't be sorry. They do have problems though. Its a great car, problem is, it was built by Ford...

So I have my old 99 GT will my K&N filter fit in my new Cobra? Just wondering...hehehe
 
Yes, the K&N will fit. The best resource I can give you on some of the problems for the 03-04 Cobra is this: http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=81

There is a FAQ there as a sticky, it is kind of outdated on choices in exhaust and vendors but is still a good resource.

I was just at Thomason in Gladstone and they have a Yellow 03, a Black 04, a Competition Orange 04, and a couple Mystic Convertibles... They may have had more. Biggest selection will be at Damerow Ford in Beaverton but they don't like to deal. Landmark Ford in Tigard seems to be ok in pricing but I don't know what they have in selection.


My first mod was a Pro 5.0 shifter, really helps smooth things out going into 3rd gear. I am currently at stock power level with just the KN drop in filter due to having to take it in for warranty work. They had to replace the halfshafts in the IRS for the second time.... Don't ask, long story. My recommendations would be to break it in fairly easy, change the oil right away, but don't go synthetic until around 4-5,000 miles to give the piston rings time to seat properly. I just use 5w-20 dino oil like the manual says. I have the stock exhaust on now, it is annoyingly quiet but it doesn't draw the cops attention like it did before when I had a MAC catback on. If you like it loud, there are a number of catbacks available. I would not use an Off Road pipe as it doesn't give you a lot of horsepower gain for the money they cost. I would wait on a pulley for a few months at least to get used to the power you will have stock. I waited over a year before I did it to mine. The difference in freeway accelleration is very noticeable though. There are different pulley setups and some people like some others don't but most agree that Billetflow is one of the best. It is also the most expensive. I had a 2.93 Lightning pulley for a bit and it worked great with an auxiliary tensioner idler pulley. I'm now going with a 2.75 inch pulley made by Kenne Bell as it is a good design made of steel. They also make one in a 3.0 inch size and the price on these are only $59 plus shipping. Personally, I'd stay away from the non slip designs, I don't think you need them if you use an idler and I had one and it ate my belt... Could be a fluke but I just dont trust em... If you don't want to add a tensioner pulley , I would not go below a 2.93 inch pulley. You will need a shorter belt with almost any pulley setup you use. A good suspension mod is full length subframe connectors. A good basis to build upon later.
 
According to Billet Flow they aren't making the standard pulleys anymore. They said no one was buying them and they'll only do the non-slip ones now. :( Hopefully the new design will not shred belts.
 
I hope you like to buy ass loads Premium fuel.

LOOK at the FAQ that Jordan posted. These cars have issues that a car this expensive really shouldn't have. SVT/Ford are on a rampage to void the warrantee on "modified" Cobras. Think hard about this.

$30k is too much for one. Dude keep looking and researching. Look at used '03/'04 pricing on Ebay and Autotrader. There's a person in this forum that has been trying to sell their '03 for long while.

Don't get me wrong I enjoy my '03. Here's the butt; it's not worth the dough. Don't get caught up in the ooooo it's a Cobra mindset. If I had it to do over again Mach1 in the low $20s might have been in my garage.

Others will say I'm full of **** on this. Think real hard before paying $30k. If there are that many out there you should be able to get one cheaper than that.

Good luck.
 
I agree $30k is too much for a coupe. I am looking for a mystic vert at $30k then I will buy but other then that I would never fork out more then $28k. I dont think there will be any market for these rides once the 05 comes out and the price will plummet along with resale value so I say wait and keep searching for a better deal...
 
$6k off would be $27k, not $30k. I was quoted a few weeks ago $29.9k for any 04 on the lot (other than the Mystic) and that was with the $2500 rebate.

duner said:
Others will say I'm full of **** on this.
Now, why would you think *that*... :rlaugh:

Personally I'd wait six weeks and test drive a new 05 GT before making any decision. Quite a number of regular folks have been driving it lately and just about everyone agrees that it is light years better than the SN95. It doesn't have as much power as an 03/04 Cobra, but it's no slouch, either. Can't hurt to wait a few weeks!

And I can't resist posting a pic... (this was from someone's test drive a couple of days ago). You just know you want one in screaming yellow :drool:. And it's got 300 horsepower...

yellow05gt.jpg
 
HairyCanary said:
$6k off would be $27k, not $30k. I was quoted a few weeks ago $29.9k for any 04 on the lot (other than the Mystic) and that was with the $2500 rebate.

Now, why would you think *that*... :rlaugh:

Personally I'd wait six weeks and test drive a new 05 GT before making any decision. Quite a number of regular folks have been driving it lately and just about everyone agrees that it is light years better than the SN95. It doesn't have as much power as an 03/04 Cobra, but it's no slouch, either. Can't hurt to wait a few weeks!

And I can't resist posting a pic... (this was from someone's test drive a couple of days ago). You just know you want one in screaming yellow :drool:. And it's got 300 horsepower...

yellow05gt.jpg

Ford is offering 3K off the price....but the sticker is still 37K + I have spoke with 5 dealers and they all come down to the same price $30,355. If they give it to me out the door at that price.....I may just do it.

Where are people finding these deals "sub 30K" I'm pre-approved on my financing so maybe I should e-bay it huh?
 
I seriously doubt if you can find a new 04 for less than 30K. They aren't making any more 03-04 Cobras and the new Cobra won't be out till mid to late 2006 last time I checked. The new GT is cool and I'll test drive one when they come out. But, lets face it, its a 14 to maybe high 13 second car with a good driver. I do 13.1 @ 108 mph in stock condition without powershifting. Ed is at 12.0 with drag radials and just about every bolt on known to man, oh, and the 12 coats of wax.. :D
If it is that "slam you in your seat" feeling you want, the Cobra will deliver. Any car can be modded to go really fast, the Cobra starts off fast and can be easily modded to be reallllly fast... That being said, it is still a Ford with the associated quality control problems. Do you really think the new Mustang GT will be different? A first year run production car? :shrug: :flag:

I'm sure if you check the Corvette forums, the BMW M3 forums, and even the Porsche forums you will find owners with cars that have quirky problems... :flag:
 
If you want a Cobra go for it.

I test drove every car in the ~$30k range before buying my Cobra.

BS'ing with a salesman is one thing. Sitting down and hammering out a deal is another.

See if you can find someone with a X-plan pin, use that and get the rebates off of that price. It would be good for all of the '03-'04 Cobra owners if the price stays that high.
 
HairyCanary said:
Bowen Scarff will give you any of their 04's right off the lot for 29.9k.

Jordan, you're sounding unusually enthusiastic about Cobras right now... you usually say "stay away, far away..." :D

Dave

Misery loves company... :D

I can't deny the fact that its the best bang for the buck out there. There are a lot of owners who haven't had the problems I have. That being said, if it got wrecked today, I would not buy another one.
 
sgtfirormsg said:
Bowen Scarff??? Where is this at or who is this cause I am looking hard... :)
I went back into my e-mail for the exact details. This is from an e-mail I received from Brian Camp at Bowen Scarff on August 4th.

"Ford announced a $3,000 factory rebate on remaining new 2004 Cobras yesterday. If you know anyone looking for one we now have them starting at just $29,550 with the rebate and none of ours are over $29,950"

His e-mail address is [email protected] -- I would definitely e-mail him, not just drop in and visit them in person (although I've heard they're one of the better dealers). The address for Bowen Scarff is 1157 Central Ave N, Kent, WA 98032. And he signs his name as "Internet Sales Manager ~and~ Mustang Enthusiast", so maybe he's not just a sales droid :).

Good luck,
Dave