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Popular Mods That You'd Recommend To Not Do

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mikestang63

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Dave2000GT said:
What about TB? Is this worth it?
Ive got GT40p, stock cam, 73MAF. Would a bigger than stock TB have any ill effects? Any benefits that make it worthwhile?
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I would say grab a 65MM TB off an explorer. If however you have a stock intake that is going to be a choke point. as it is the same 55MM size as the stock TB. The Explorer intake is spaced the same as the TB- 65MM.

Also, if you have a 73MM MAF, I am guessing it's a C&L. Pure garbage IMO. Get a junkyard 70MM from a 94-95 GT or a Pro M.
 

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The negatives of UD pulleys in my case are offset by 3G alt and big ass AL rad and elec fan to keep things cool. The UD pulleys do more for you at higher rpms which is where we need to be for any decent power out of these things anyway.
 
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mikestang63 said:
I would say grab a 65MM TB off an explorer. If however you have a stock intake that is going to be a choke point. as it is the same 55MM size as the stock TB. The Explorer intake is spaced the same as the TB- 65MM.

Also, if you have a 73MM MAF, I am guessing it's a C&L. Pure garbage IMO. Get a junkyard 70MM from a 94-95 GT or a Pro M.
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I like the stock intkae tube though
Got it off ebay to replace the open cone K&N (crap) that the po put on. Came with a C&L 73 unbeknownst to me at the time of sale

Is all that worth it.. going to a 65 setup??
 

mikestang63

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I wouldn't do it with a stock intake. Waste of time IMO.
 
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Dave2000GT

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mikestang63 said:
I wouldn't do it with a stock intake. Waste of time IMO.
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Its the explorer intake
 

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A5literMan said:
I don't agree with the op other than the fact that you can be over geared as much as under geared. There is always an optimal ratio for every application. In Noobz car I would assume a little more gear/proper suspension/tire combo would fit his demands. With an engine combo that is already making 580# tq gear multiplication isn't a need for the street. I have had 4 fox bodys with minor bolt ons that I added steeper gears(3 had 3.73-1 had 3.55). They all ran better after the change. For the avg fox owner a steeper gear is well worth it IMHO especially 2.73's(they absolutely suck!!)
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It all boils down to vehicle use really. A guy that drives on the highway 20 + miles a day to work and goes to the track once a season prob wouldn't want 4.10 or even the beloved 3.73. I think if I had a 6th gear I'd like the 3.73's more
 

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A minor bolt on 3.73 will almost always outrun and equally modded car with a 3.08, 3.27, 2.73 gears provided you have decent driving skills. Add traction to the equation from better tires and it's an easy win.

Most of you guys may not be old enough, but in the early 90's, it wasn't unheard of to have 10+ friends local (local as in your own town or an adjacent one) with 5.0 mustangs. All daily drivers, all people that couldn't afford anymore than a catback, h pipe, headers, gears and underdrive pulleys.
I can say for sure from experience as guys added 3.73's their cars were faster.
 
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they thought they were faster because they could spin the tires longer
 

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So basically from what I am reading we should all have kept our Mustangs stock, because none of the basic bolt-on's are worth it. The only reason to modify the Mustang from stock and make it "worth it" is if it is going to be a drag only or road race only car. This is just plain stupid. A person has to start somewhere, and if it is not gears, it is going to be a CAI or throttle body, or underdrive pulleys. You have to start somewhere folks, and a lot of times the starting point is determined by money available and what the individual wants, if it is worth it or not is a moot point.
 
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Bullitt347 said:
So basically from what I am reading we should all have kept our Mustangs stock, because none of the basic bolt-on's are worth it. The only reason to modify the Mustang from stock and make it "worth it" is if it is going to be a drag only or road race only car. This is just plain stupid. A person has to start somewhere, and if it is not gears, it is going to be a CAI or throttle body, or underdrive pulleys. You have to start somewhere folks, and a lot of times the starting point is determined by money available and what the individual wants, if it is worth it or not is a moot point.
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Shaddup... Nobody has made fun of your banana injection system.
 

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Noobz347 said:
Shaddup... Nobody has made fun of your banana injection system.
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Because that was a secret.........now you have let the cat out of the bag and opened the door to endless taunts, jeers and sneers. Thanks a lot Noobz
 

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Bullitt347 said:
So basically from what I am reading we should all have kept our Mustangs stock, because none of the basic bolt-on's are worth it. The only reason to modify the Mustang from stock and make it "worth it" is if it is going to be a drag only or road race only car. This is just plain stupid. A person has to start somewhere, and if it is not gears, it is going to be a CAI or throttle body, or underdrive pulleys. You have to start somewhere folks, and a lot of times the starting point is determined by money available and what the individual wants, if it is worth it or not is a moot point.
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id actually like to find the person who got me in this stupid ass hobby and thunder punch that tw atwaffle in the adams apple for making me broke
 
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srtthis said:
id actually like to find the person who got me in this stupid ass hobby and thunder punch that tw atwaffle in the adams apple for making me broke
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If it was not this it would be hookers and blow, just sayin......................
 
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Bullitt347 said:
If it was not this it would be hookers and blow, just sayin......................
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good point...
 

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srtthis said:
id actually like to find the person who got me in this stupid ass hobby and thunder punch that tw atwaffle in the adams apple for making me broke
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srtthis said:
good point...
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x2
 

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Bullitt347 said:
So basically from what I am reading we should all have kept our Mustangs stock, because none of the basic bolt-on's are worth it. The only reason to modify the Mustang from stock and make it "worth it" is if it is going to be a drag only or road race only car. This is just plain stupid. A person has to start somewhere, and if it is not gears, it is going to be a CAI or throttle body, or underdrive pulleys. You have to start somewhere folks, and a lot of times the starting point is determined by money available and what the individual wants, if it is worth it or not is a moot point.
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well put. I was just reading this thinking, i dont really regret anything ive done to the car because if i did things any differently i wouldnt be where i am at right now.
 

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Grabbin' Asphalt said:
IMO gears should be tayloring the power band and in between 3.08 -3:55, on the 3.08-3.27 side for power adders and 3.27- 3.55 side for high compression n/a motors.
...and deleting the A/C is a terrible idea
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LOL! 3.55's.
 
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Mr. Rustypwnz said:
LOL! 3.55's.
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Because everyone's quest in their 80s designed boxy-ass car with a truck engine is Mpgs. So yeah, gears help but unless you're building a funny car don't get carried away with gears. And NEVER go steeper than a 4.10
 

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Tubular k member may not have many up sides, but the accessibility sure is nice
 
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