Project DOHC Eleanor gets T-56

Fostang · Jan 24, 2004

Yeah well picked up a t-56 6 speed from today. Along with an aluminum flywheel and clutch set.

Now does anyone have a clue if it will fit in the tranny tunnel of my 67'???

How about a cable clutch from modern driveline?? Or similar?

I can't quite figure out what that gold colored solenoid looking thing is for right next to the shifter anyone know?

Route666 · Jan 24, 2004

Nice! I was planning to do the DOHC 4.6 swap, but changed my mind when I saw a fuel injection IR setup for ford smallblocks, and the aluminium Ford Racing block.

Show me more show me more! Also, what is done already?

DarkBuddha · Jan 24, 2004

Nice. You're definitely putting all the right parts together... I can't remember which DOHC motor you're installing. Was it the 5.4 Lincoln? The reason I ask is that I found a place that has new Mach1 complete motors for $2995, complete from shaker to pan, with engine wiring harness. It would still need accessories, computer & harness, but still seems pretty reasonable for that motor. http://www.karkraft.com/engines.htm in case you're interested.

Fostang · Jan 24, 2004

I wanted the better internals more specifically the forged crank so I picked up a 4.6 Cobra complete set up now I have a t-45 to sell.

Might tear it down to install H beam rods and low compression pistons with that it'll handle 700 hp compared to 450.

Not much has been done yet I have a lot of the parts but still need to put them together. The M2 suspension has been done already. Been figuring out the wiring and planning an attack. I must have it driving by May.

96 DOHC Cobra · Jan 25, 2004

Fostang said:
Yeah well picked up a t-56 6 speed from today.

Now does anyone have a clue if it will fit in the tranny tunnel of my 67'???
Not sure, but I believe it will. The 65-66 tunnels are the ones that have interference, from what I've read.

How about a cable clutch from modern driveline?? Or similar?
Any of the cable clutch conversion kits out there should work just fine.

I can't quite figure out what that gold colored solenoid looking thing is for right next to the shifter anyone know?
That's the reverse lockout solenoid. It's to prevent accidental shifts into reverse. There are a few ways to address it but two most common.
1. Do nothing, leave it alone.
2. Connect it to the stoplight switch on your brake pedal. That way it's only activated when your foot is on the brake.

Hope this helps. BTW is it for mechanical speedo or electronic?

gp001 · Jan 25, 2004

Fostang said:
Yeah well picked up a t-56 6 speed from today. Along with an aluminum flywheel and clutch set.

Now does anyone have a clue if it will fit in the tranny tunnel of my 67'???

How about a cable clutch from modern driveline?? Or similar?

I can't quite figure out what that gold colored solenoid looking thing is for right next to the shifter anyone know?

You will have to do tunnel mods.

I believe the solenoid is the reverse assist solenoid. You can run without it. Many of the guys swapping in T-56s into Fox bodies make extension boxes to move the shifter back. I have yet to see one with the solenoid re-attached.

Fostang · Jan 25, 2004

DOHC- It's an Electrical Speedo set up. Puts out the same paramaters to the eec from what I understand just doesn't drive the speedo the same way. I'm using an auto gauge electric speedometer anyways.

Hope what helps??

GP- Good info there.

Is the tranny really that much wider than say a an AOD or t-5 that required to tunnel mod to fit?

I like how they did that shifter got any info on it? I had planned on using a set up similar to mustang +'s restomod shifter handle extension already but can see myself doing that one instead. That way I can have a steeda tri-ax shifter.

Fostang · Jan 25, 2004

I aslo need info on a hydraulic clutch set up. Or Cable.

66fasterback · Jan 25, 2004

you will have to cut tunnel or it won't fit . just done my 66 fastback t56 http://mustangandmore.50megs.com/pages/Tremec.html

Fostang said:
Yeah well picked up a t-56 6 speed from today. Along with an aluminum flywheel and clutch set.

Now does anyone have a clue if it will fit in the tranny tunnel of my 67'???

How about a cable clutch from modern driveline?? Or similar?

I can't quite figure out what that gold colored solenoid looking thing is for right next to the shifter anyone know?

gp001 · Jan 25, 2004

Fostang said:
I aslo need info on a hydraulic clutch set up. Or Cable.

Since space is going to be tight with that engine/trans setup I'd consider going with a hyd. throw out bearing. You would have to fab up a pedal stop, but if your putting a 4.6 & T-56 in fabbing that up would be nothin. Mcleod has some nice hyd TO bearing setups. Go with the self adjusting bolt on version if you can.

gp001 · Jan 25, 2004

Fostang said:
I like how they did that shifter got any info on it? I had planned on using a set up similar to mustang +'s restomod shifter handle extension already but can see myself doing that one instead. That way I can have a steeda tri-ax shifter.

They started out with a solid block of aluminum and milled the box almost identical to the original T-56 shifter box. Then they fabbed the pieces to attached a solid drill rod to the oriignal shift rod to extend it back to the new box. They used the original shifter handle assembly in the new extension box.

Most people use a setup similar to the M+ one. A couple of the Griggs race cars use a similar setup as well.

mustang70 · Jan 25, 2004

I know that solenoid is used for the skip shift in camaros and trans ams. Never heard of a reverse assist solenoid. Either way, you don't need it.

96 DOHC Cobra · Jan 25, 2004

Fostang said:
DOHC- It's an Electrical Speedo set up. Puts out the same paramaters to the eec from what I understand just doesn't drive the speedo the same way. I'm using an auto gauge electric speedometer anyways.

Hope what helps??

Sorry, the rest of my comments are mixed in with your quote.

Fostang · Jan 25, 2004

Great info. Now I need to do some research on the tunnel mod and throw out bearing.

Fostang · Jan 25, 2004

Oh wow I just looked it over as a quote LOL

Ok thanks.

Yeah from what I know 65 and 66 have the interferance but 67 up fit. I guess I'll have to find out.

Never though of that brake switch I'll decide how it goes. Maybe I'll just leave it alone.

gp001 · Jan 25, 2004

mustang70 said:
I know that solenoid is used for the skip shift in camaros and trans ams. Never heard of a reverse assist solenoid. Either way, you don't need it.

As I understand it, the solenoid attempts to prevent you from accidentally slamming it into reverse. It's call an "assist" because it can be overpowered (so it's not a lock out).

However, I admit that I am by no means an expert on the T-56. I merely went off e-mail correnspondance I had with several people who had swapped T-56s into non T-56 cars back when I was deciding which trans I wanted to go with when I did my swap. These people called it a "reverse assist solenoid" and gave the description above.

Just my $0.02

Fostang · Jan 25, 2004

Yeah it doesn't lock it out. It works by having a little force when going faster than 5 mph. So you don't accidently go into reverse.

If you leave it alone and unplugged to anything it'll just take about 20 lbs of force to get it into reverse.

66fasterback · Jan 25, 2004

email me at haab22@msn.com then I'll send info & pics how to cut your tunnel.

Fostang said:
Yeah it doesn't lock it out. It works by having a little force when going faster than 5 mph. So you don't accidently go into reverse.

If you leave it alone and unplugged to anything it'll just take about 20 lbs of force to get it into reverse.

Fostang · Jan 25, 2004

GP- HA good one about it being simple to fab up a pedal stop since I'm dropping in a 4.6 and t-56. You'd be surprised how dumb I am. LOL. I'm quite lost here and this along looks like a 500 dollar investment ggrrrrrrr.....

fasterback- you have mail.....

gp001 · Jan 25, 2004

Fostang said:
Yeah it doesn't lock it out. It works by having a little force when going faster than 5 mph. So you don't accidently go into reverse.

If you leave it alone and unplugged to anything it'll just take about 20 lbs of force to get it into reverse.

I guess they figure if you are wimpy enough to need 2 overdrives you need helpkeeping it out of reverse

Thats why they call them T-56.

T hey're really a 5 speed, but we'll call it a 6

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