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Putting a Stop to Oil Consumption through the PCV Valve

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  • Start date Start date May 19, 2006
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BlackVert

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i saw some aluminum beer bottles at the beach when i was there ... hmmmmmm
 

Hink

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Ok, here is the pcv screen mod pics.





Here is the bottle side view so you can see bottom part of the Aluminum bottle setup.


Enjoy ,
Hink
 

vristang

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Hink -
I am having a hard time visualizing how this modified screen will help.

Are you not using a baffle on the lower intake?
There should be a baffle there, installed by whomever manufactured the manifold.

Are you installing this is the stock screen location?

I am just having a hard time seeing how these washers will help separate oil from the air.
Maybe I missed something?

jason
 

BlackVert

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Hink said:
Here is the bottle side view so you can see bottom part of the Aluminum bottle setup.


Enjoy ,
Hink
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looks pretty ghetto, but if it works, then
 

Hink

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vristang said:
Hink -
I am having a hard time visualizing how this modified screen will help.

Are you not using a baffle on the lower intake?
There should be a baffle there, installed by whomever manufactured the manifold.

Are you installing this is the stock screen location?

I am just having a hard time seeing how these washers will help separate oil from the air.
Maybe I missed something?

jason
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Yes, it is installed in the stock screen location , helps protect against direct splash. There is something there, but doesnt seem to amount to much. If there is a guard there, it doesnt cover the area directly under the oil screen. Had oil dripping out of my air filter before adding that washer.
Hink
 

BlackVert

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look what i found in my kitchen ...
View attachment 460699

these are $17 at bed bath and beyond
 

Hink

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Stage 2, Stop the oil mist attempt.

Still getting a small amount oil, in TB, so took vrstang's suggestion and added some mesh. Parts in this pic, two meshes

Put the mesh in...

2 meshes inside now...

Now to test it !
Think that should stop any oil misting , time will tell.
be back with results in a few days, good ones hopefully.
Sincerely,
Hink
 

$uperstang

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You guys are crazy glad I solved my problem.
 

$uperstang

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TheBocSez said:
Also, is the PCV valve tapped directly into the VC? if so, how does this prevent oil being sucked up through it? The PCV valve would seem to be closer or at least as close to an oil source with the rocker arm flinging it all around. Wouldnt it stand to reason that if your VC to TB hose can suck oil all the way up the filler neck, that the PCV could suck oil up too?
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Boc I have the tall Ford Racing valve covers with baffles under both valve covers all the more reason I probably do not get much oil coming out of their. And yes it is set-up exactly as you have described in the previous post, I will take some pics it's real simple and works but If you don't have baffles under the valve covers it will suck oil still. I'll take some pictures!
 
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Ironically I have just discovered that I am leaking oil at a good rate. It looks to me as if the oil is coming from the rear of the intake. Could it be a gasket? If not what is the easiest way to fix this? If I remove the PCV filter and it is clogged is that my problem? Thanks for your help
 

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slvrvert91 said:
Ironically I have just discovered that I am leaking oil at a good rate. It looks to me as if the oil is coming from the rear of the intake. Could it be a gasket? If not what is the easiest way to fix this? If I remove the PCV filter and it is clogged is that my problem? Thanks for your help
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hi, slvrvert91, Do you know where it is leaking at for sure ? From what have heard if the pcv screen filter(Which is installed underneath the pcv > pcv grommet>pcv wire screen) is clogged it can lead to pressure build up in engine , which can result in leaking out of the rear main seal(aka blown rear main seal if the seal loses integrity).
Sometimes the whole grommet and or, pcv valve can come out, this will lead to oil at the back, also is the rubber grommet and pcv valve in place and the grommet making a good seal(aka tight), have had some grommets not sealing good myself, had a brand new one that was a bad fit once.(It is rather hard to see back in there!) Just trying to help.
Sincerely,
Hink
 

TheBocSez

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$uperstang said:
Boc I have the tall Ford Racing valve covers with baffles under both valve covers all the more reson I probably do not get much oil coming out of their. And yes it is set-up exactly as you have described in the previous post, I will take some pics it's real simple and works but If you don't have baffles under the vlave covers it will suck oil still. I'll take some pictures!
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Cool. Thanks, I was starting to think I was being ignored. LOL, guess thats what I get for posting after Hink!
 

Nicoleb3x3

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is it ok to plug the pcv screen (delete it entirely) and vent using a breather on the valve cover?

my car is not modified, it's only stock

should I be ok? or what???
 
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Nicoleb3x3 said:
is it ok to plug the pcv screen (delete it entirely) and vent using a breather on the valve cover?

my car is not modified, it's only stock

should I be ok? or what???
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If it's running fine, then it's running fine. No more to that. You can suck all the oil and pressure you want. But then what? The standard size breather do not remove the increased windage.(depending on your windage)> very much unles the other end of the tube coming out the breather is going to the exhaust through ahose atchached to the hedder or whatver,something to perform a possitve flow out.
 
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jimilane

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Nicoleb3x3 said:
is it ok to plug the pcv screen (delete it entirely) and vent using a breather on the valve cover?

my car is not modified, it's only stock

should I be ok? or what???
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YOu still need a valve, unless you are goig to just suck a bunch of air out of there. You could do this by running hoses the the collector on the exahust. IT works every time. Makes a little smoke sometimes. but always works.\
 

$uperstang

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OK guys check my cardomain site for recent pics: any questions just ask. It's really as simple as it look. PCV in rear of intake plugged, PCV in driver side valve cover, hose routed under the intake to the rear where it goes in to the oil seprator and then to the upper intake, DONE!

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2188563/3
 

$uperstang

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Nicoleb3x3 said:
is it ok to plug the pcv screen (delete it entirely) and vent using a breather on the valve cover?

my car is not modified, it's only stock

should I be ok? or what???
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You are fine, don't touch it!
 

vristang

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$uperstang said:
OK guys check my cardomain site for recent pics: any questions just ask. It's really as simple as it look. PCV in rear of intake plugged, PCV in driver side valve cover, hose routed under the intake to the rear where it goes in to the oil seprator and then to the upper intake, DONE!

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2188563/3
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Are you using an intake manifold spacer?

Just wondering how this fits with a stockish setup.

Well, done.

jason
 

tmoss

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vristang said:
Are you using an intake manifold spacer?
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his sig says a 1" spacer.........
 

$uperstang

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vristang said:


Are you using an intake manifold spacer?

Just wondering how this fits with a stockish setup.

Well, done.

jason
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Yep 1" spacer and just barely cleared the throttle bracket!
 
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