Raising the car for Subframe connector welding (or other reasons).

lemosley1973 · May 11, 2020

I recall seeing a thread or post here of someone who built some wooden blocks to raise the Fox - they raised it pretty high - like 18+ inches.

They built blocks out of wood, but it wasn't just stacking up 2x6's or 2x8s to make a solid mass of wood. - I think they used 2x4s on their sides in a sort of crossing pattern that locked the wheels in place.

Does anyone happen to have that bookmarked? Or have other ideas? I can build some ramps out of 2x8s of course, though that would be pretty high. I figure I need the car 7-10 inches off the ground.

Foxslider · May 11, 2020

I threw the front on cinder blocksunder tires with jackstands under just for safety. Rear jackstands on axle. = the same load as being on ground.

PJV9126 · May 11, 2020

Like this?

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We show you how to make wooden car stands using basic tools. This is a great and inexpensive way to get more room under your vehicle.

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I think you will be able to find a bunch if you search "wheel cribs".

Cheapskate207 · May 11, 2020

I have a set. This is about as high as I can go with my jack. I believe they’re 12” 2x4 sections.

lemosley1973 · May 11, 2020

I knew you guys would come through - I would never have thought to search for 'wheel cribs'.

Rdub6 · May 11, 2020

Cheapskate207 said:
I have a set. This is about as high as I can go with my jack. I believe they’re 12” 2x4 sections.

I’ve always thought about building these. How secure are they compared to jack stands, in your opinion? I could definitely use a little more room to work under there.

Steel1 · May 12, 2020

I built a set to use when I welded in my jacking rails, very handy but they take up some storage space.

Cheapskate207 · May 12, 2020

Rdub6 said:
I’ve always thought about building these. How secure are they compared to jack stands, in your opinion? I could definitely use a little more room to work under there.

IMO, they're more stable and safe then jack stands. The only downfall is you can't perform suspension/brake/wheel work, obviously. Jack stands still have their place. I use both now.

LX1993 · May 12, 2020

Buy a set of 6 ton jack stands?

awing · May 12, 2020

I considered building some but didn't want to deal with the weight and storage of them. These are pricey for blocks of foam though.

LX1993 · May 12, 2020

Cribbing with the 2x4's looks ok I guess, ramps though, nope. I've personally seen three sets fail, two metal (both folded the f*** over) & one composite. I'm sure it's happened, but a jack stand failing seems a lot less likely. Again, spend the extra dough for the six ton ones. Those foam blocks are interesting, hadn't came across them before.

lemosley1973 · May 18, 2020

It's up. I only made 10.5 inches tall, and don't feel like I need more. I did have to buy another pair of jack stands (I've only ever had 2).

Convertibles are a little more sketchy to get up because they have an XBrace that connects to the K-Member with some bolts that aren't flush. For the block of wood I created to put on top of the jack, I had to drill to holes with a paddle bit to let it sit flush onto the X-brace.

stormsedge · May 18, 2020

LX1993 said:
Buy a set of 6 ton jack stands?

Yup...go to Harbor Freight/Northern Tool and get the six ton jackstands. They work for Mustangs and bigger pickups (Inuse mine with my F250). They will also stand up to the scrutiny of an insurance investigator as taking due care for safety should an accident happen. My dollartwoninetyeight.

96pushrod · May 18, 2020

Foxslider said:
I threw the front on cinder blocksunder tires with jackstands under just for safety. Rear jackstands on axle. = the same load as being on ground.

Done the cinder block method as well. Works great.

lemosley1973 · May 18, 2020

This is working great. I've removed the front reinforcements and the rivets from the rear. Next I will grind the rear reinforcement lip down and test fit. Assuming they SFCs fit properly, I'll probably have them welded in this weekend and hopefully primed and painted.

I noticed some oil on my rear passenger side axle tube, so new seals and bearings may be in the future.

Its great to have the car this high and it be secure.

lemosley1973 · May 26, 2020

Well it's done - I put all of the weight on the car to get the reinforcment plate to mash down. My welds are ugly but I think they'll hold. We'll see - if not, I see a lot of cutting and rewelding, but I'll get better.

I used flux cored wire for the MIG. Harbor Freight stuff, and ran out with like 8 inches left to weld (you have to weld plates on the MM SFCs for the final step). I bought some Lincoln flux core and it seems to weld nicer and welds a LOT cleaner. More expensive (12/lb at Lowe's) but appears to my novice skills to be a superior product.

It took me a long time, but I took my time. Probably the biggest time sucks are just getting up off the floor, back down, then getting into a semi-comfortable welding position.

Rdub6 · May 26, 2020

Good news on getting them done!!! But let’s see those welds!

lemosley1973 · May 26, 2020

I'll get some pics but they're painted flat black so the hideousness may not fully show through.

I didn't even grind them - they're under the car where all manner of trash is going to be thrown at them, so what's the point (unless there is a reason?)

Rdub6 · May 26, 2020

Nope. No reason other than I’m a newbie welder too, and just snotted up the bottom of my car with ugly welds doing my SFC and floor pan repair. I figure I’d like some company!

Cheapskate207 · May 26, 2020

I’ve heard the lincoln flux core is MUCH better than the HF stuff.

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So while I wait to figure out my rear end issues

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