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ArkansasMystic

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I had my rear bumper painted over the summer, and I keep scratching it. I finally had someone buff it, and all the scratches came out. It looks great from a foot or two away. However, when the sun shines on it and you are farther back, you can see tons of swirls from the buffer. Not sure if it was a bad pad or not enough compound, but it looks bad. Usually I would be mad, but it still looks better than all the scratches that were there. The finish is smooth, it isn't scratched. Is there any way to remove this? I know a guy who has been in the auto body business for years, and he is good with a buffer. I didn't know if he might be able to buff over it and smooth it out?? At this point I'm scared to have more buffing done on it, but he should be able to say yes or no if it will work. I may try just waxing over it, but wanted to see if there might be anything else I should try. Thanks.
 
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if it has a clear coat on it wet sand, buff it again then wax
 

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LittleJohn07 said:
I had my rear bumper painted over the summer, and I keep scratching it. I finally had someone buff it, and all the scratches came out. It looks great from a foot or two away. However, when the sun shines on it and you are farther back, you can see tons of swirls from the buffer. Not sure if it was a bad pad or not enough compound, but it looks bad. Usually I would be mad, but it still looks better than all the scratches that were there. The finish is smooth, it isn't scratched. Is there any way to remove this? I know a guy who has been in the auto body business for years, and he is good with a buffer. I didn't know if he might be able to buff over it and smooth it out?? At this point I'm scared to have more buffing done on it, but he should be able to say yes or no if it will work. I may try just waxing over it, but wanted to see if there might be anything else I should try. Thanks.
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it probably just needs a buff with a finishing polish and a finishing pad...itll come right out i am sure
 
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san~man

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It needs a machine polish. Do NOT wet sand it unless you know what you're doing, or you'll fugg up the paint.
 
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I will have an experienced friend who owns a body shop, been into it for probably 30+ years, do it. I just need to know what needs done so I can get an idea of how much time/money to look at, and to make sure it will come out (or will it be a waste and ruin the new paint)? Thanks.
 

02nightmaregt

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Yea i'd be careful too with a badass paint job like the mystic.
 

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I recently used a claybar and wax and got the majority of them out of my car. I would spend 15-20 bucks that might get it out rather than spending more on something your not sure of
 
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I have a claybar kit sitting at home, I hadn't thought about it. However, since the finish is smooth and the swirls show in the clear, I really don't think it will come out with the clay bar.
 

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a claybar or a wax will not remove swirls. How bad are the swirls? if they are faint/light swirls then a finishing polish with some light cutting fix it. If it's any worse than that you will need to get it buffed with a machine and a more aggressive polish. You can use a glaze as a filler for swirls, but they will show up again eventually.
 
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The finish is smooth, they aren't scratches. You can just see the circular motions that were made with the buffer. Sounds like it should be fixable, which is good. I won't be touching it, too scared to mess it up. I will either get the guy I know to do it or find a decent detailing shop. Thanks.
 

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really not hard to fix with a random orbital like the PC 7424 or a flex. If it's just marring from using a compound then a light polish will do the trick. You can do it by hand with a microfiber polishing or foam pad, but it's going to take a lot of effort.
 

SRT Handz

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I removed the swirls on my stang a long time ago so my pant looks fabulous

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This is my family member's SL55 AMG that i detailed....the swirls looks like Hell before....

Adam's Car Wash
Dry With Waffle Weave Towel
Adam's Claybar
Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover 3.0 w/Lake Country Orange Pad
Wolfgang Finishing Glaze 3.0 w/Lake Country White Pad
Wolfgang Deep Gloss Sealant w/Lake Country Red Pad

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deftsound

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is your collar popped?

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oh please i hope lasersvt sees this
 

SRT Handz

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no deftsound, my collar is NOT popped...you can clearly see it folded over in the pic.

If your gonna try and PWN me at least make sure your correct when you try to internet Pwn

 
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Maybe it isn't "swirls". It is not what you see in the above pics. It is a haze left from where the buffer went. I tried to get pics, but it is very hard to capture. I'm glad it seems fixable, I'll take it by the body shop next chance I get to see if the guy will work on it. Last time I took it to him, he worked on it for an hour and wouldn't let me pay him. Great, yeah, but I also feel bad because he stays busy and it was during business hours when he could have made money. That's the reason I didn't go back to him (wish I had now, but oh well). Thanks everyone.
 
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SRT Handz said:
I removed the swirls on my stang a long time ago so my pant looks fabulous

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Your "Pant" looks much better than before

If you see "hazing," and not "swirls/spiderwebs," you probably have micro marring left from the product used to remove the swirls. It most likely needs to be gone over with a finishing product, such as Menzerna PO85RD, or something with less cut and more gloss.
 

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Sorry san man.....i was iphone posted and f'd up lol
 
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san~man

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SRT Handz said:
Sorry san man.....i was iphone posted and f'd up lol
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I know, my big fingers have a hard time with the keyboard too. Thank god for the spell check (even though "pant" versus "paint" wouldn't be corrected).
 
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deftsound said:
is your collar popped?

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SRT Handz said:
no deftsound, my collar is NOT popped...you can clearly see it folded over in the pic.

If your gonna try and PWN me at least make sure your correct when you try to internet Pwn

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Handz i'm depending on you now, i just bought the wolfgang swirl kit The Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover Kit is the total solution to swirled, hazy paint. If you like the slick, glossy look of Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint mainly to bring the 97 back to awesome!!
 
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