30 hp??? that doesnt add up, only 15-18 percent of your total power is lost through the drivetrain. if you gain 30 hp, that would mean you are only losing 2-5 percent. i guess its possible if you had your entire drivetrain coated,
Thank you Stan.
BTW Rickyll7, the Mikronite process is NOT a coating. It is a very hi-tech method of polishing and strengthening a specific material. These guys are gaining 8-12 RWHP on relatively stock Mustangs by just having the ring/pinion gears Mikronited. NASCAR and NHRA/IHRA have been doing this for a while now. If you were to do the pinion journal, carrier journal, and transmision gears prior to assembly, and additinal 18 RWHP, or a total of 30 RWHP could easily be gained.
They are also finding decent gains by doing valvesprings, bearings, and camshaft followers and rockers.
http://www.mikronite.com/overview.asp
http://www.mikronite.com/documents/ValveSprings.pdf
I am not trying to call BS on anyone, I have just never heard of this and am curious. The reason I ask questions is because going from 350 rwhp to 380 rwhp is like earlier said, going from 15% loss to 7.7%. This implies that the gears rough surface is causing 1/2 of the drivetrain loss, what about the tranny, bearings, etc. The ring and pinion gear are by no means are 1/2 of the drivetrain. And even then, you are assuming that all of the loss from the ring and pinion are being eliminated, not possible with any material, losses will be there. So if you assume that 75% of the loss from the ring and pinion gear is being reduced, then that means that the ring and pinion gear composed well over 1/2 the total original drivetrain loss. I do believe that there is probably a gain, but I suspect that these dyno comparisons may be misleading. Anyone can gain 2-5 hp from run to run with zero mods. Does this sound crazy???
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Well, if this is 100% true, then it just sounds too good to be true. I would love to try this myself!
The rear end soaks up the majority of the power lost through the drivetrain. Roughly 65% according to all the dyno testing results I have seen. The relationship between the pinion gear and the large and heavy ring gear are the reason for this as they bear most of the torque load in the drivetrain. This is especially true on Ford rear ends like the 8.8" and the commonly used 9". On Ford rear ends, the pinion gear centerline is actually below the ring gear centerline as opposed to other "make's" rear ends where the pinion gear centerline is very close to the ring gear centerline.
It doesn't sound crazy at all. People just need to have an open mind. In know it's hard for some racers to accept stuff like this that is slightly "outside the box" thinking, but the fact that this has been proven beyond any doubts to give honest and impressive power gains speaks for itself. This isn't some fly by night company trying to make a buck. They are a well known and established company that spends a lot of time and money to utilize the latest in technology to bring us this kind of stuff.
Instead of immediately jumping to the conclusion that this is somehow too good to be true, perhaps you could take some time to learn more about it and instead welcome the technology behind it, and be happy that there are other gear heads out there still finding ways for us to put even more power to the pavement to leave the rice burners in the dust.
I've noticed that the shifter on my 02 Mustang doesn't feel smooth when I shift into the various gears. This happens only while I'm shifting into 1st, 2nd , 3rd and 4th gear. My clutch feels okay and the reverse gear is fine. The gears don't grind or anything like that, but I don't get the buttery smooth shifts as much anymore like I used to. The shifter stays in gear and I don't have any problems with the shifter popping out of gear while I'm driving or while I'm shifting. But the shifting feels a little rough. Is this normal? What causes the rough shifting?
My car is a 2002 Mustang 5 speed manual with the V6 engine in it.
The March issue of "HOT ROD" magazine came in the mail today and there on page 30 Mikronite buys Crane Cams.
So like, what about this guys tranny now that the post is hijacked 6 ways to Sunday?
you drive a mustang. get used to it. we dont buy these things cause they drive and feel like beamers...........
Is there something in the design of the shifter which makes it feel rough while shifting or is it something in the transmission which make it feel rough like that? This roughness occurs on my 02 V6 Mustang by the way.
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