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Roush Vs Saleen Vs Shelby

  • Thread starter Thread starter 90lxwhite
  • Start date Start date Jun 23, 2014

Who do y'all like and why?

  • Roush

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • Saleen

    Votes: 6 30.0%
  • Shelby

    Votes: 13 65.0%

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revhead347

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The Z28 is fast as hell. It's just more money than almost 99.9% of the track guys want to spend. You can actually get AC and a radio, it's like a $1600 option. It also has carbon ceramic brakes on it. Track guys don't use those. They are expensive and they crack all the time. For that kind of money you can get a really nice BMW, and the track guy is going to buy the BMW over the Camaro every time.

Kurt
 

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90lxwhite said:
Yikes $70k for a z28!? Man o man it's gettin nasty out there.
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Ya, a camaro that outran the nissan gtr on a road track and motortrend also preferred over it.

If ford wants to be taken serious, they need to bring back the Boss 302. One of the very 05+ cars i've liked. Great value for $42-47 grand.

View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqkyWhVBSKU
 
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elarm1

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I agree but I think the Shelby can still get the job done with these two
 

revhead347

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A Shelby is not going to be faster than either of those on the track. I don't see any GTRs out there either though. Never seen a Shelby at the track for that matter.

Kurt
 

stykthyn

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Shelby s are overpriced show cars now. It's a mere symbol as to how much money you have in your wallet.
 
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90lxwhite

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revhead347 said:
A Shelby is not going to be faster than either of those on the track. I don't see any GTRs out there either though. Never seen a Shelby at the track for that matter.

Kurt
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That might have to do more w demographics. Do the old dudes who can afford a gt500 race or just pull into their assigned parking spot at their dentists office where they work and go on in?
 

CarMichael Angelo

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Anything north of the standard optioned GT has always been wasted on the guy the really would drive it for its' intended purpose.
Which one of you in your late 20's to 40 has the disposable income to either make a 700.00+ a month payment, or come off of 50+ grand to drive a factory built race car.........................

Nobody????

Like I thought.

Just like a Z06 Corvette. Who is driving the car when you look over?

Some crusty old raisin that thinks I give a s hit when he brings it to a cruise night, or some hag smokin' a cigarette with the windows rolled up flying down the interstate late for her sales call.

Shelby, Saleen, Roush, COPO, Z-28, Z06, ZL-1 are all names/numbers that were never intended for someone w/ kids, a mortgage, and an hourly wage.

As for me, I liken it to the guy/girl that gets all gaah-gaah over a celebrity.

They're just people, that happen to make 60 million dollars over the course of the summer.

So what?
 
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Gearbanger 101

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Oy-Vey

Repeat after me you heathens.....R-O-U-S-H




.....not "Rous-c-h"
 

90lxwhite

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madmike1157 said:
Anything north of the standard optioned GT has always been wasted on the guy the really would drive it for its' intended purpose.
Which one of you in your late 20's to 40 has the disposable income to either make a 700.00+ a month payment, or come off of 50+ grand to drive a factory built race car.........................

Nobody????

Like I thought.

Just like a Z06 Corvette. Who is driving the car when you look over?

Some crusty old raisin that thinks I give a s hit when he brings it to a cruise night, or some hag smokin' a cigarette with the windows rolled up flying down the interstate late for her sales call.

Shelby, Saleen, Rousch, COPO, Z-28, Z06, ZL-1 are all names/numbers that were never intended for someone w/ kids, a mortgage, and an hourly wage.

As for me, I liken it to the guy/girl that gets all gaah-gaah over a celebrity.

They're just people, that happen to make 60 million dollars over the course of the summer.

So what?
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Well done man, well done. Bravo bravo.
Ps: that's what I said
 

90lxwhite

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stykthyn said:
Shelby s are overpriced show cars now. It's a mere symbol as to how much money you have in your wallet.
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Always kinda was though wasn't it?
 

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90lxwhite said:
Always kinda was though wasn't it?
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Not necessarily. Back in the day it was all about the pedigree. A purpose built, track mustang that you can still drive on the street. Nowadays it has shied away from that, but hell, if i could swing it, id get me a Shelby.
 

90lxwhite

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tamadrummer88 said:
Not necessarily. Back in the day it was all about the pedigree. A purpose built, track mustang that you can still drive on the street. Nowadays it has shied away from that, but hell, if i could swing it, id get me a Shelby.
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The "factory backed" race teams as a whole are kinda a joke now days in my opinion. NASCAR, for example, the race cars have d!ck squat in common w the cars they represent. Rear wheel drive Lumina....
 
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90lxwhite

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tamadrummer88 said:
, if i could swing it, id get me a Shelby.
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Honestly if I could swing it I think I'd go w neither unless I had another high end car to show off. Shelby's are cool but a non car guy may look at one and think hm nice mustang w a body kit not knowing it's an $80k car. Even the non car guy would recognize a Vette as something American top shelf .
 

stykthyn

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New stingrays>shelby
 
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90lxwhite said:
Honestly if I could swing it I think I'd go w neither unless I had another high end car to show off. Shelby's are cool but a non car guy may look at one and think hm nice mustang w a body kit not knowing it's an $80k car. Even the non car guy would recognize a Vette as something American top shelf .
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I would bet a Shelby wouldn't be any harder for a non car guy to pick out than it would for him trying to distinguish between one the plethoras's of C5/C6/Zo6/ZR1/Stingray, Grand Sport, etc models out there?
 
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Bullitt347

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I had (past tense) the $ to buy a new Shelby, although it would have been the GT350 offering. Instead I have sunk the $ into a purpose built race car. I still have my 08' Bullitt that in N/A form puts down 325rwhp and still pulls 27 mpg highway. In all honesty, the 08' Bullitt is the perfect street car. A 500 whp street car is almost not usable. With 325 whp, I can have all the fun I need on the street and still light the hides if I want to. The real HP is saved for the drag car where it can actually be used to the fullest.
 

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I don't care WHAT you guys are saying. 662hp is fine with me all day!
 
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CarMichael Angelo

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Gearbanger 101 said:
Oy-Vey

Repeat after me you heathens.....R-O-U-S-H




.....not "Rous-c-h"
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What?....I spelled it right.
 
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Gearbanger 101 said:
I would bet a Shelby wouldn't be any harder for a non car guy to pick out than it would for him trying to distinguish between one the plethoras's of C5/C6/Zo6/ZR1/Stingray, Grand Sport, etc models out there?
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You're right but the vette would be a vette and the Shelby would be just another mustang.
 

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Money wise, there are a decent number of guys who want a purpose track day car, which is the market the new Z28 is supposed to fill. I've always seen a few guys with a really nice M3 or one of the Porsche track day cars, GT3RS, etc. Those cars are a lot of money. They are usually the kind of people who have been doing it long enough to want to invest in a really good car. Young or old, they drive the out of them. I don't forsee GM taking any market share from Porsche and BMW with this new Z28. I think they should have introduced the Z28 as mildly improved ZL1 package and in that price bracket. I think GM would have done better to fill in that hole than try and conquer the top.

Kurt
 
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