rpm air gap?

kreacher5.0 · Mar 4, 2006

hello i have a crosswind airgap intake and i noticed it dont have the notch in the devider like the edelbrock verson so whats the dif?And whats better

D.Hearne · Mar 4, 2006

For the money you saved, what'd you expect? An exact duplicate of the Edelbrock intake? Thanks for supporting the Chinese economy. I'm sure they're thanking you too---------NOT!!!!!!!!

ddonaca351 · Mar 4, 2006

The notch will slightly extend the upper rpm range of the manifold, by making it act like a little bigger plenum. You probably loose 500 rpm off the upper end... no big deal 99% of the time.

Hey D.... if Edelbrock wasnt charging OVER $300 for a manifold (320 for my C) they wouldnt loose to the Chinese so much.

DD

steel1212 · Mar 4, 2006

If you want cheap parts buy a chevy lol. I'm with Hearne on this one. You get what you pay for. I'm not saying the crosswind thingy is bad as I have never tried it but I'll send my money to Vic any day.

mustangman70 · Mar 5, 2006

i LOVE my edelbrock RPM Air~Gap

I also like the little notch when it comes to nitrous plates

WORTH · Mar 5, 2006

I gotta side with Dhearne too, support the US, not the competition, unless you want to go on welfare when all the jobs are gone.

10secgoal · Mar 5, 2006

Now, now guys. Maybe it's possible he didn't know. Dang you guys are touchy...lol.

atomicpunk · Mar 5, 2006

WORTH said:
I gotta side with Dhearne too, support the US, not the competition, unless you want to go on welfare when all the jobs are gone.

I agree - but if you guys really want to support the US, help push for tax reforms that would make us competitive again - like the fairtax

The republicans and democrats have made us completely beholden to China by driving up the debt to insane levels. All China needs to do to wipe out our economy is dump their holdings of US dollars, Asia has us by the proverbial short-hairs.

WORTH · Mar 5, 2006

10secgoal said:
Now, now guys. Maybe it's possible he didn't know. Dang you guys are touchy...lol.

actually I'm not touchy or upset, I'm 52 and everything is paid for so I don't need a job. I've actually been in semi-retirement this year, but all you younger guys are gonna be effecdted real soon.

Everything you buy from overseas takes labor away from you and take money out of the country. It's your call.

69Rcode_Mach1 · Mar 5, 2006

It can also increase dependancy like atomic punk said, we kind of have our balls in a vice right now. Either way Kreacher nobody is targetting you so don't take offense they are pointing out why you have the problem. The knock offs are not perfect.

WORTH · Mar 5, 2006

atomicpunk said:
I agree - but if you guys really want to support the US, help push for tax reforms that would make us competitive again - like the fairtax

The republicans and democrats have made us completely beholden to China by driving up the debt to insane levels. All China needs to do to wipe out our economy is dump their holdings of US dollars, Asia has us by the proverbial short-hairs.

Yes and No, the fairtax is a very good thing, but there is always someone that will MAKE IT CHEAPER, you just have to decide if you want to sell yourself out on the long term for short term gains.

steel1212 · Mar 5, 2006

My post was directed more towards ddonica's point about the air gap being more expensive. Maybe they didn't know it was made by the chinease. I'm not real upset about it unless he knew it was made foreign. You still get what you pay for

D.Hearne · Mar 5, 2006

atomicpunk said:
I agree - but if you guys really want to support the US, help push for tax reforms that would make us competitive again - like the fairtax

The republicans and democrats have made us completely beholden to China by driving up the debt to insane levels. All China needs to do to wipe out our economy is dump their holdings of US dollars, Asia has us by the proverbial short-hairs.

As far as I've seen of the "fair tax", it's gonna cost me more money than what I'm payin now. All together I pay about 20% of my income to the feds, 5% to my state. And the few times I've seen some tax replace something else, not one merchant comes down on his prices afterwards. All we get is taxed more and more. When did you ever see programs cut ? Then a tax reduction afterward ? We don't need term limits for elected officials, we need term limits for government employees. THEY'RE THE REAL REASON, GOVERNMENT GETS BIGGER AND BIGGER. Put in place a 5 year limit on government service and I guarantee you'll see government get smaller. 5 years and that's it, GO OUT AND WORK LIKE THE REST OF US. And then see how you like the crap you started.

kreacher5.0 · Mar 5, 2006

Hey yall no I didnt know it was made in china i realy dont care though also if you think about it what jobs were not giving away to china the mexicans are taking because we want work so what we realy need to do is get off our ass and do something about it.Thanks 4 the info

atomicpunk · Mar 5, 2006

D.Hearne said:
As far as I've seen of the "fair tax", it's gonna cost me more money than what I'm payin now. All together I pay about 20% of my income to the feds, 5% to my state. And the few times I've seen some tax replace something else, not one merchant comes down on his prices afterwards.

I think you're underestimating your total tax cost. Maybe your *income* tax is only 20%, but what about all the hidden taxes, excise taxes, sales taxes, etc? The average American pays something like 55% (!). I *strongly* recommend you snag a copy of the Fair Tax book, it's about $7. Hell, PM me your address and I'll buy you one if you pass it around when you're done with it.

D.Hearne said:
All we get is taxed more and more. When did you ever see programs cut ? Then a tax reduction afterward ?

I agree completely, but if we could start out by changing the tax laws so we could compete internationally instead of driving all our own companies offshore, it'd be a nice start. The Fair Tax specifically avoids involving any cuts so that both sides of the ruling party could get behind it. As for real cuts, I assume you're voting Libertarian or something, because the republicans have certainly proven they won't be doing anything except seeing if they can outspend the democrats.

steel1212 · Mar 5, 2006

kreacher5.0 said:
i realy dont care though

EDITED: Never mind....not worth it....not tech

kreacher5.0 · Mar 6, 2006

Hey yall I didnt mean to start a political war on here i just needed some info. Regardless of were the intake was made it runs good. Ya know not all of us have alot of money to spend on our dreams so when you see what you think is a good deal you jump on it. Well thats what I do I dont know about yall.Anyway thanks 4 the info.

steel1212 · Mar 6, 2006

Its just a lot of us are die hard red white and blue.

With that being said most of us aren't going to have any knowledge of those intakes...sorry.

66forfun · Mar 6, 2006

On another note, does the block strength suffer when using an air-gap? Ive got an old torker (76 vintage) and was investigating short blocks and have seen several valley supports. I was wondering if the old style manifolds offer increased block strength?

kreacher5.0 · Mar 6, 2006

I would say its bout the same on the real deal air gap I dont know about the the crosswind

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