s-281-E vs. T66 Supra
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Striped5.0 said:Old but a classic.
whats a 400 HP supra and a 700 HP supra have in common................
they both run 12's
DYNO QUEENS
yes but my friends 800 hp one runs low 10s at 140s
my other friends BPU AUTO went 12.0 at 115 and mid 11s at mid 120s on a 75 shot. (BPU = stock twins with basic performance upgrades, i.e. exhaust boost controller etc, equivelant to boltons..) he doesnt even make 400
95snoozer said:yes but my friends 800 hp one runs low 10s at 140s
my other friends BPU AUTO went 12.0 at 115 and mid 11s at mid 120s on a 75 shot. (BPU = stock twins with basic performance upgrades, i.e. exhaust boost controller etc, equivelant to boltons..)
I know I know theres always going to be " My friend did this" and My friend did that cases but Im not looking for a bunch of 1/4 times to be posted , its just a fun saying to pick on supra owners.
whil ethe rest of the world has just as much fun picking on us.
fact is all the supras here run on slicks and CCW custom 3 piece wheels. none are slow. Austin is the single turbo supra capital of the US
oh.... here is a funny one.
one of the guys has a black supra on enkis with a t88 stock fuel and exhaust. he made 555 to the rear wheels... the absoltue limit for stock fuel..
he went 13.7 at 122
fact is all the supras here run on slicks and CCW custom 3 piece wheels. none are slow. Austin is the single turbo supra capital of the US
oh.... here is a funny one.
one of the guys has a black supra on enkis with a t88 stock fuel and exhaust. he made 555 to the rear wheels... the absoltue limit for stock fuel..
he went 13.7 at 122
95snoozer said:one of the guys has a black supra on enkis with a t88 stock fuel and exhaust. he made 555 to the rear wheels... the absoltue limit for stock fuel..
he went 13.7 at 122
Yet I have friends and know of a ton of people on here that have gone 12's on 300 RWHP. Supras = Teh SUCK when it comes to the 1/4. Or maybe the majority of supra owners just dont know how to drive
I've seen plenty of mustangs get horrible 1/4 mile times. People just don't expect much out of mustangs like they do supra's so you don't hear anyone making a big deal out of it.
And the $$ comparison is worthless. I think it's stupid to factor in the cost of the car. Most people don't buy a car just for a platform, they buy it because they like the car. A true "car guy" will wrench on what he has to make it better or faster whether it be a $800 POS or a $200k ferrari. And "expensive" modifications differ from person to person. Money isn't an object for everyone. The hood on my supra sells for $2k alone, I know guys with $8k rims on their supras... that is peanuts to some guys and if they wanted something basic and fast they could have spent $3k on a turbo kit and fuel system and make 600-700 horsepower.
If you want to start playing the $$ game... If I chose to sell my supra I could get what I paid for it. Some of you that bought your mustangs for $15-20k will have a hard time getting $5k out of it when you sell it. So you are getting raped every day you own it. I bought my 2000 GT for $20k and when I bought the Supra I sold the GT and only got $9k out of it after owning it for 4 months.
*AND* whether you like to admit it or not... the "average" supra will DEMOLISH the average mustang on the street. I've beaten EVERY mustang I've raced in my area including my best friend's 2003 cobra on multiple occaisions. I'm sure that there are quite a few around that could take me, but I haven't come across any yet.
And looks are all relative... I like the looks of mustangs but I get way more compliments on my supra than I did my mustang.
I'm not here to bash mustangs, I joined when I had my 2000 GT and I just got a 65 with the GT package and 4 speed top loader. But I will back up supra's side of the story while I'm here just like I back up mustangs on supraforums when ignorant people make stupid comments over there.
And the $$ comparison is worthless. I think it's stupid to factor in the cost of the car. Most people don't buy a car just for a platform, they buy it because they like the car. A true "car guy" will wrench on what he has to make it better or faster whether it be a $800 POS or a $200k ferrari. And "expensive" modifications differ from person to person. Money isn't an object for everyone. The hood on my supra sells for $2k alone, I know guys with $8k rims on their supras... that is peanuts to some guys and if they wanted something basic and fast they could have spent $3k on a turbo kit and fuel system and make 600-700 horsepower.
If you want to start playing the $$ game... If I chose to sell my supra I could get what I paid for it. Some of you that bought your mustangs for $15-20k will have a hard time getting $5k out of it when you sell it. So you are getting raped every day you own it. I bought my 2000 GT for $20k and when I bought the Supra I sold the GT and only got $9k out of it after owning it for 4 months.
*AND* whether you like to admit it or not... the "average" supra will DEMOLISH the average mustang on the street. I've beaten EVERY mustang I've raced in my area including my best friend's 2003 cobra on multiple occaisions. I'm sure that there are quite a few around that could take me, but I haven't come across any yet.
And looks are all relative... I like the looks of mustangs but I get way more compliments on my supra than I did my mustang.
I'm not here to bash mustangs, I joined when I had my 2000 GT and I just got a 65 with the GT package and 4 speed top loader. But I will back up supra's side of the story while I'm here just like I back up mustangs on supraforums when ignorant people make stupid comments over there.
Cool. A Supra owner that's not a total A S S H O L E. Welcome.bmcelhinn said:
Supras impress me from a roll only. Their dyno numbers never back up what they make at the track - the true test of a car's power. With 500 horsepower on tap, a Mustang will go EASY 10's. I'm not bashing, I'm just comparing, and I have no problems with this guy stating his opinion.
I don't buy into the whole dollar per dollar comparison either. The - "I paid $6000 for my car with $2000 dollars in mods and I beat your $40,000 car" is bull. Jeep guys always do that saying "for what someone paid for that Hummer, I could have the "ultimate" Jeep." Yeah, great, get over it.
Lets put it into a perspective that I'm sure everyone can agree with. The Supra that you hung with at the track will destroy your car if you raced for 1/2 mile. It's that simple. Get over it. It's only a car...
Joe
Yeah, supras aren't easy to get good track times with. But there also isn't that many parts available to help them. You see mustang guys getting good times because they have nice solid axle setups with 4.10's and a lot of suspension work to get low times with lower horsepower #'s
Supras have ****ty gears like 2.23's and nobody makes aftermarket gears for them. They have independant rear suspension setups that are terrible for drag racing. There are NO aftermarket bars or anything to eliminate wheelhop and the best suspension upgrades you can get are some HKS drag coilovers.
So in retrospect, the 800-1000rwhp supras that are totally street driven on ****ty gears and all do pretty well in the 8-9 second range. There are plenty of 500-600rwhp supra's in the 10's also. My buddy with 540rwhp just ran a 10.6 last week at a local strip.
I'm just giving credit where it's due.
Supras have ****ty gears like 2.23's and nobody makes aftermarket gears for them. They have independant rear suspension setups that are terrible for drag racing. There are NO aftermarket bars or anything to eliminate wheelhop and the best suspension upgrades you can get are some HKS drag coilovers.
So in retrospect, the 800-1000rwhp supras that are totally street driven on ****ty gears and all do pretty well in the 8-9 second range. There are plenty of 500-600rwhp supra's in the 10's also. My buddy with 540rwhp just ran a 10.6 last week at a local strip.
I'm just giving credit where it's due.
bmcelhinn said:
I respect your opinion and all about Supras, but the "average" supra isn't a twin turbo. I have a bone stock 5.0 with an exhaust and I've taken supras that don't have twin turbos.
He's talking about the NA supras... which in general should be compared to V6 mustangs in all fairness. They came with 225 horsepower. Out of the 8 or so supras in my area there are maybe 2 that are NA. I think they made about 10,000 supras in the US between 93.5-98 and only 2-3,000 of them were NA.95snoozer said:then what is the average supra? a single turbo?
And, it's a misconception that Supra guys are all import fans. Most of the supra guys I know had mustangs, camaros, vettes, etc before their supras like me. We hate on ricers and fwd ***G0T wagons more than you guys do because ever since fast and the furious those ricers think they can fit in with us. My friends all have fast rwd cars and they are far from ricers.
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