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J.Cagle

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I think I'll just get some new tunes. Is there a way to delete the current ones on it? Also, say I tune it and down the road decide to go back stock with it. is there a way to put it back to a stock tune?
 

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Definatly get new tunes for your controller. Tuners can email you their tunes. The way I understand it is: when you first plug your controller into your cars port it first copies your cars stock tune. You would then download the tune of your choice into the cars pcm. You then hit the gas burn the tires fishtailing wildly with a giant smile on your face screaming "yeehaa"!!!! LOL


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J.Cagle said:
I think I'll just get some new tunes. Is there a way to delete the current ones on it? Also, say I tune it and down the road decide to go back stock with it. is there a way to put it back to a stock tune?
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I believe you have to get the previous owner return his car to stock with this tuner before you can use it, then his tunes can be deleted. Once all your stuff is on the tuner, then it's easy to return your car to stock. Just plug it in and put your "Return to Stock" tune back on.
 

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The previous owner said the tuner was "unlocked". He took the c&l off and sold it and the tuner before he sold his car. So I am guessing he put his car back to stock before he sold it.
 

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I'll throw another email tuner into the mix: Brooksspeed. He does email tunes for the SCT and the Diablo as well as dyno tunes. He used to work for SCT and then ventured out on his own. I switch back and forth among his tunes and bamachips tunes.
 

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Don 95Vert said:
Couple things - the sticker on the PCM is its box code. The strategy is the 'family' of processors - you are much better off giving the tuner the strategy because on '05 and up Mustangs the dealer will reflash the PCM to upgrade programming and sometimes change it. They'll do this without telling you and may do it whoile they are doing warranty work, changing oil etc. To get the strategy, plugh tht X3 in the car, then go to Vehicle Information, and one of those options under that is "Read Strategy".

So called 'torque tunes' are just someone messing with the drive by wire settings to give more torque at lower RPMs to improve what it might feel like - you don't actually gain power because it's just like you giving more throttle down low all the time with a cable throttle system on an older car. i,e, it opens the blade more with less pedal and demands more torque at a lower pedal position.

You will most likely need a new tune for your car unless yours is the same strategy as the one you bought it from. It is not the same box code because the tranny is different. But to be safe, I'd get one for it if it were me - they are pretty cheap - we charge $50/tune and Justin at VMP is also excellent and his are in the same price range.

My own '06 picked up a LOT of power from a C&L Racer (they make different CAIs) and a tune - though I dynotuned mine. I also modded my drive by wire settings because I hated the feel of the way that SCT's recommended settings felt. I have used my own derived settings on a number of customer's cars and they really liked them.

You will need to specify WHICH CAI you have exactly as the '05's and up are particularly sensitive to changing the inlet. Exhaust changes, except for long tubes, usually do not require any tune changes - have whoever does it for you shut off the rear 02s and you'll be good to go when you put on the O/R pipes.

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I am a little confuse on Torque tunes not producing power. With a 91 tq tune I was at 298RWHP and 308RWTQ which would be about 30rwhp and about 25-30RWTQ more than stock.
 

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Didn't say that - ANY of the performance tunes will pick up more power - my own '06 picked up 35 RWHP with my tune - what I'm saying is that there really isn't much difference between the two, except the torque tune demands more torque at a lower pedal position to give the feel of more power down low. There would not be more torque overall, just more at less pedal.
 

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Don 95Vert said:
Didn't say that - ANY of the performance tunes will pick up more power - my own '06 picked up 35 RWHP with my tune - what I'm saying is that there really isn't much difference between the two, except the torque tune demands more torque at a lower pedal position to give the feel of more power down low. There would not be more torque overall, just more at less pedal.
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There was more tq overall. My car stock with just a steeda udp was at 282 RWTQ, with the 91tq tune and JLT I was at 309RWTQ.
 

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Is there a way to delete the previous tunes on my sct? Do I just plug it in and go to the customs tunes and delete them some how?
 
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