smooth drip rail

Travis77 · Jul 26, 2006

Got another drip rail removal question for you veterans.
Before I start on my 67 fastback, I'm a little confused where my cut should be in relation to the small hump above the drip rail. The small ridge is just on the top portion of the window. Should I cut above the ridge, or below it? If I cut below, I guess the hump or ridge needs to be ground down. But since this hump is not solid, grinding it down would make it paper thin .

I Included a picture looking from the passenger side top rear corner. At what line should I make my cut? One mark is obviously above this hump, and one is below. I realize this picture sucks.

http://www.dropshots.com/day.php?userid=130137&cdate=20060726&ctime=120524

xoxbxfx · Jul 26, 2006

picture is confusing... You want to cut the outer arrow'd part. If you cut further back, you will have to weld in a patch panel....here is an UGLY drawing

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The drip rail is actually 2 stamped sheetmeal pieces overlapping eachother and they get spotwelded down the "U" part of it. You want to cut along the flat spot but NOT cut into the humped part. Then you need to weld down the whole seam and grind it smooth. TAKE YOUR TIME!!!!!!!!! If you dont cut straight, its hell to make the driprails straight again

<----- Knows from experience

Travis77 · Jul 26, 2006

That is what I figured. Basically I need to use the lower edge of the hump as a cutting guide while on the top portion and blend close to the body when I get to the sides.
Once finished welding it up, what do I need to do with the small depression just before the hump. Use a little filler to totally smooth it out?
Thanks for having patience. I am obviously nervous about doing this and do not want to regret it once done

xoxbxfx · Jul 26, 2006

Travis77 said:
That is what I figured. Basically I need to use the lower edge of the hump as a cutting guide while on the top portion and blend close to the body when I get to the sides.
Once finished welding it up, what do I need to do with the small depression just before the hump. Use a little filler to totally smooth it out?
Thanks for having patience. I am obviously nervous about doing this and do not want to regret it once done

Hopefully you wont need filler...the 2 pieces of metal are not spaced out like the picture, they touch eachother. You just weld (VERY SLOWLY) the whole line and grind it down.

Id recommend using a grinder with a 4" cutting disc and going really slow on the cut. Definately not something you want to rush. When you get done cutting it, you will see something like an equals sign = ... the tow layers of metal one ontop of the other. They might seperate a bit since the spotwelds you cut off were holding it together. Just weld down that whole seam. have you ever welded body panels?

Travis77 · Jul 27, 2006

I have welded panels before. I may be missing something here. I realize that when I cut the drip rail off there will be several body panels which are crimped together. I will take my time and weld it up. Grind down and try to use little bondo.
But, I still need to know if this hump stay or does it end up getting ground down after I weld it up. Because if this hump remains, it will not have a smooth look when completed above the window.

xoxbxfx · Jul 27, 2006

The hump stays...you only shave the driprail

Travis77 · Jul 27, 2006

Thanks for all the info.
Started trying to cut one side off using my cut off wheel, but thinking of borrowing a saw saw. Cut off wheel wasn't working too good.

Jester67 · Jul 27, 2006

Should you cut a section tack weld it then move on instead of cutting all of it first then welding it back together?

xoxbxfx · Jul 27, 2006

Jester67 said:
Should you cut a section tack weld it then move on instead of cutting all of it first then welding it back together?

thats a good idea

Travis77 · Jul 27, 2006

I hate to keep asking all these repetitive questions, but this is still bugging the crap out of me.
When you say that the humps stay, you are meaning that they are not cut off. But seriously, I do not see how these are not at least ground down or something. Can't find a good close up example.
I have stared at this joker for a long time and can't picture how it will end up looking correct without modifying this hump. I thought maybe that if it is meant to be left, and that it is a solid seam, I could grind it down flush. But I drilled a hole with a tiny drill bit and found out that that is not an option because it's hollow. Maybe I will figure it out as I begin cutting. I was just wanting to know what I am getting myself into. Yes, your going to have to hold my hand on this one. Xoxbxfx, I do really appreciate the info your giving me.

67Dylan · Jul 27, 2006

Travis, you need another set of eyes. You know how you stare at something too long and someone new comes by and points out the obvious... I've had that happen before .

xoxobxfx, thanks for the info you're providing. I am going to cut my drip rail as well and this post couldn't have come at a better time.

xoxbxfx · Jul 28, 2006

ok...heres teh best I can do for some pictures. This is FUBAK's car (he used to be on her a while ago)

Here you can see the "hump" is still there but the actual driprail is gone. The driprail is just the "L" shaped part that holds the chrome trim. The purpose is to drrp rail from dripping straight down into the car. Cutting off the L shape is shaving the driprails

Here is another car with shaved rails. Dunno who's it is.

Here is apicture of a 66 coupe Im working on... I completely shaved the hump though, not just the drip rail
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LUCAFU1 · Jul 28, 2006

here is the start of mine. you can get away with filler or fiber glass to get them some but im gonna weld, grind, weld, grint.........untill i like them.

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xoxbxfx · Jul 28, 2006

LUCAFU1 said:
here is the start of mine. you can get away with filler or fiber glass to get them some but im gonna weld, grind, weld, grint.........untill i like them.

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you HAVE to weld them...the body will flex adn the mud will crack

Travis77 · Jul 28, 2006

I may need that extra set of eyes. You should thank me for looking so ignorant on the matter.
Thanks for all the pictures. All the cars I have seen had everything removed. If I'm going to go as far as removing the rails, the hump is going as well.
Just when you thought I was through
Let's get this in steps
1) cut/ weld, cut/ weld until drip rails is removed & seam welded together
2) grind/weld, grind/weld some more until the hump is removed
3) fill in any low spots with weld and do light grinding until looks good

xoxbxfx · Jul 28, 2006

Travis77 said:
I may need that extra set of eyes. You should thank me for looking so ignorant on the matter.
Thanks for all the pictures. All the cars I have seen had everything removed. If I'm going to go as far as removing the rails, the hump is going as well.
Just when you thought I was through
Let's get this in steps
1) cut/ weld, cut/ weld until drip rails is removed & seam welded together
2) grind/weld, grind/weld some more until the hump is removed
3) fill in any low spots with weld and do light grinding until looks good

the best thing you can do now is just stop and let a professional do it if you really want to take out the hump by using welding and grinding. If you cut it out, you wil have to make a patch panel. By the time you get done welding its going to look all distorted. I would highly recommend filling the recessed spot with dynaglass and smooth it.

mustangman70 · Jul 28, 2006

other then looks, is there any other reason to shave it off???

xoxbxfx · Jul 28, 2006

mustangman70 said:
other then looks, is there any other reason to shave it off???

nope...the driprail is there for a reason

mustangman70 · Jul 28, 2006

haha thats what i thought

Jester67 · Jul 28, 2006

There is one thing I am compelled to point out the roof of a unit-body car is an important part of the structure. IMHO, care must be taken when removing the drip rails as any thin spot would have a tendency to flex and crack in short order.

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