Fox Speedo Sitting at 12MPH

All he likely needs is the stop pin. That's considering the speedometer works fine and he wants to keep the white faces. The speed discrepancy is probably the 4.10 gear because the transmission end of the speedometer cable was never changed.
Just say'n :shrug:
 
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All he likely needs is the stop pin. That's considering the speedometer works fine and he wants to keep the white faces. The speed discrepancy is probably the 4.10 gear because the transmission end of the speedometer cable was never changed.
Just say'n :shrug:
It seems we are not understanding the problem description the same way. See post seven. “swinging all over the place” sounds suspicious. I figured the needle was put on wrong if it was there when not moving.
@Jamesmcga can you clarify if the speedometer -
1. Reads fast when the car is stopped?
2. Does the needle bounce, tremor or act spastic when the car is moving?
3. Does the needle read at a rate relative to the speed of the car?
4. And is it off the same amount as when it is stopped?
 
I think he meant the tach.

If the speedo cable is binding up in the shaft, it could randomly unwind to relieve the tension and give the appearance of moving while stopped. I sense there's a whole lot of issues that need solving here.
 
at idel the speedometer will sweep occasionally… and then when it settles down it is 10 to 20 mph off.

As of right now with the car off the needle is sitting at 12 miles an hour.
Thanks. The stock mechanical speedometer has no way to move unless it has a input from the cable. 5L5’s binding is the best explanation for that, unusual as that is. Be sure to lube inside the new cable before installing.
What transmission is in the car?
 
at idel the speedometer will sweep occasionally… and then when it settles down it is 10 to 20 mph off.

As of right now with the car off the needle is sitting at 12 miles an hour.

We see that and let me give a possible explanation, the needle is mounted to a (for lack of better words) barrel with a magnet/ spring setup, as the car moves the cable turns the barrel spinning the magnet and moving the needle, the vibration at start up may be causing the magnet part to pull the needle up because there is no tension on the spring, that may be the reason for the tic (mark on speedometer face) to be below the 0 mph mark, the stop is there to 'load' the spring holding the needle down on the stop, there needs to be tension on the spring to keep the magnet from pulling on the needle until the cable starts turning the barrel.
Before replacing the cluster I would try pulling the needle off, placing it a little below the 0 on the face then moving the needle up and placing the stop in its hole and letting the need rest on the stop thus loading the spring. You can find the hole for the stop by shining a light behind the gauge and poking a hole in the white face gauge covering.
I am not a mechanic by trade, I am just broke enough that I have to try to figure out how to fix stuff, most times I can fck something up and it still works just fine.
 
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We see that and let me give a possible explanation, the needle is mounted to a (for lack of better words) barrel with a magnet/ spring setup, as the car moves the cable turns the barrel spinning the magnet and moving the needle, the vibration at start up may be causing the magnet part to pull the needle up because there is no tension on the spring, that may be the reason for the tic (mark on speedometer face) to be below the 0 mph mark, the stop is there to 'load' the spring holding the needle down on the stop, there needs to be tension on the spring to keep the magnet from pulling on the needle until the cable starts turning the barrel.
Before replacing the cluster I would try pulling the needle off, placing it a little below the 0 on the face then moving the needle up and placing the stop in its hole and letting the need rest on the stop thus loading the spring. You can find the hole for the stop by shining a light behind the gauge and poking a hole in the white face gauge covering.
I am not a mechanic by trade, I am just broke enough that I have to try to figure out how to fix stuff, most times I can fck something up and it still works just fine.
How to replace the dash anyways cause old one was not quite to restoration quality so if you’re still fix the problem for now.