Stang not always wanting to start

Eos · Oct 21, 2004

Okay so this has happend 3 times recently. The first time I was at a gas station and I had just drivin the car a good 30 miles. I got in to start it up and it wouldn't start. It tried to turn over but just wouldnt. So I had someone jump it and the moment we put the cables on it started right up. The 2nd time it happened at my friends house, after it had been drivin about 50 miles. Same thing happened, this time we didn't jump it we just tried to start it from a roll. This wasn't too successful but after a few minutes it just started. And last night I went to get in it and went to start it. It was doing the same thing, only this time I was just like "oh im not dealing with this again" lol So I just pumped the gas a lot and finally it started after a few pumps. I don't think it has anything to do with the starter, it better not the starter is new. And I don't think it can be my battery because the lights come on, the engine just won't turn over. I was wondering if possibly the carb is getting flooded out or something of that nature?

TheEvII · Oct 21, 2004

Perhaps your starter solonoid is sticking. It's on the passenger side inner fender. Otherwise I'd say you may have a corroded connection somewhere. Good luck.

jydCOBRAII · Oct 21, 2004

Ground

Like EvII said check connections, a corroded ground wire can cause a lot of headaches.

Gael · Oct 21, 2004

Except for your last example, I think your starter may be getting too hot, and so it doesn't want to turn over? I can't remember its name, I think it's "heat soak" or something like that. That's what it seems like to me.

I know my car doesn't want to start back up after a long drive, especially with my headers. I think I may buy a starter shield for it. Block off some of the heat.

IICrazy · Oct 21, 2004

Buy a GOOD starter shield and that should fix your problem if the starter is getting too hot. thats all mine took

Eos · Oct 21, 2004

Well I mean it is turning over, i meant that it won't fire. I got confused.

Power Surge · Oct 21, 2004

So are you saying that the car cranks normal, it just doesn't fire the motor all the time?

BTW, what are you holding in your avatar? Looks like either a dounut, or an albino snake of some kind.

Gael · Oct 21, 2004

IICrazy said:
Buy a GOOD starter shield and that should fix your problem if the starter is getting too hot. thats all mine took

which is the good starter shield that you used?

IICrazy · Oct 21, 2004

Gael said:
which is the good starter shield that you used?

I first used some starter tape that, that stuff sucks. now I actually have a starter blanket, that works so far.

jeffnoel · Oct 22, 2004

CobraIILover said:
BTW, what are you holding in your avatar? Looks like either a dounut, or an albino snake of some kind.

I believe those are fur lined handcuffs, not that I would know anything about that.lol

Power Surge · Oct 22, 2004

jeffnoel said:
I believe those are fur lined handcuffs, not that I would know anything about that.lol

Ah, now I see it. The fur ones are for beginners, but I guess you need to start somewhere .

Eos · Oct 22, 2004

Yes the car cranks normally just doesn't fire. And yes they are fuzzy handcuffs, my car got broke into, and the thieves broke em

Wart · Oct 22, 2004

fastmustangII said:
.... It was doing the same thing, only this time I was just like "oh im not dealing with this again" lol So I just pumped the gas a lot and finally it started after a few pumps.

I'm not imoplying anything , you do know you have to hit the 'gas' to put fuel in the engine?

EFI has been around so long people forget how carbed engines work. We had one guy posting that his II wouldn't start or idle when cold. Turns out he didn't realize the throttle had to be opened for the high idle cam to drop into position and allow the choke plate to close.

This only happens when it's hot?

Off the top of my head I can think of several things, from the common to the bizzare.

The fuel could be boiling out of the bowl, the engine has to be cranked to refill the bowls (and the pedal would need pumped to priome the engine) or the float valve could be seaping making the engine rich.

It could be the ignition module (pick up) in the distributer, These don't fail that often, sort of, but when they do they tend to fail intermittantly. They get hot , the wires expand breaking connection, but not always. I hate intermittant electrical faults.

Quick test for this is to carry an old spark plug withthe electrode either opened up or removed. When the car doesn't want to start pull the coil wire from the cap, put the plub in the wire and lay it against the block/intake. Have someone turn the engine over. If the spark is nice and blue and healthy ignition probably isn't the problem.

Probably.

Could be a coincidence, as in the engine shaking a certin way when it's shut off breaking an electrical connection. Could take vibration from a starter to re make contact. It happens.

It's going to take better observation of what's going on under the hood.

Eos · Oct 22, 2004

Wart said:
I'm not imoplying anything , you do know you have to hit the 'gas' to put fuel in the engine?

EFI has been around so long people forget how carbed engines work. We had one guy posting that his II wouldn't start or idle when cold. Turns out he didn't realize the throttle had to be opened for the high idle cam to drop into position and allow the choke plate to close.

This only happens when it's hot?

Off the top of my head I can think of several things, from the common to the bizzare.

The fuel could be boiling out of the bowl, the engine has to be cranked to refill the bowls (and the pedal would need pumped to priome the engine) or the float valve could be seaping making the engine rich.

It could be the ignition module (pick up) in the distributer, These don't fail that often, sort of, but when they do they tend to fail intermittantly. They get hot , the wires expand breaking connection, but not always. I hate intermittant electrical faults.

Quick test for this is to carry an old spark plug withthe electrode either opened up or removed. When the car doesn't want to start pull the coil wire from the cap, put the plub in the wire and lay it against the block/intake. Have someone turn the engine over. If the spark is nice and blue and healthy ignition probably isn't the problem.

Probably.

Could be a coincidence, as in the engine shaking a certin way when it's shut off breaking an electrical connection. Could take vibration from a starter to re make contact. It happens.

It's going to take better observation of what's going on under the hood.

Yep, I know to give it gas when I start it. lol I do that with all cars. My dad was thinking it might have something to do with the choke on the carberator. And you mentioned something about it running rich, and I think it has been running rich anyway so that could have something to do with it.

77sleeper · Oct 22, 2004

maybe your car is a republican

Eos · Oct 23, 2004

77sleeper said:
maybe your car is a republican

Pft!!! DevIIL's not a republican! DevIIL is a little hippie liberal.

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