STS Turbo (remote mounted) questions

Aparently this guy has modded one for another pre 05 Stang. He is moving his shop so he is talking about giving me a discount normally he charges about 4300 insalled. He has one on his LS1 he is going to show me dyno results on his car. He is also planing on sending me dynos for a 05 F150 as well.
 
$3,800 for a turbo kit (even if it is an STS).....it almost sounds too good to be true. You say he's moving? How well do you know this guy? Make sure he's not just taking your money, and moving to another Country. :D
 
fright88 said:
BTW the STS kit for the 05 stang is only 3995.
Yep, but this is for a single turbo set up. Being rear mounted is bad enough, but it being hindered by having to feed a single turbo over the length of the car makes it even less impressive.

407rwhp at 6.5psi with a 3V engine?!? Count on those figure being about 10-15% lower with a 2V set up. You'd pretty much be able to match that kind of power with one of MPH's Mongoose kits and for less money. Not to mention it's a less involved install and will be easier to tune.

I've never been a fan of the rear mounted turbo set up and by the looks of things....I'm still never going to be. :shrug:
 
Spreadman said:
From what I've read, STS makes a good system. On vettes they're making INSANE power. I say go for it. But ask the guy for some references if you're nervous.


^ one the first LS motor that i saw near my house with that kit was a WS-6 making insane power. But i have seen them on magazines and stuff , i read that for the 05 GT's they also had a twin turbo rear mounted kit also :shrug:
 
fright88 said:
Yeah but what are the chances I can pick up the mongoose kit installed for 3500? BTW I am going to check out 2 cars tomorrow with the kit. A GTO and a truck. Pluss he is planning on showing me his dyno results.
Ok....I'm a little foggy here!?! He's selling the kit to you and installing it for $3,800? Or is $3,800 just what he's charging you for the install, + the $3,995 for the kit itself?
 
Spreadman said:
Keep in mind, with the STS system, there's really isn't much to the install. Just run tubing, mount the cooler and you're good to go. Nowhere near as involved as a centri kit or KB kit.
Ahhh, it a little more involved than you might think. My buddy just built one for his 351W powered '82 GT and it was no picnic. Running all of the inlet and exhaust tubing back and forth throughout the length of the car, while trying to maintain as much ground clearance as possible was a real PITA.....as was the oil return system that feeds the turbo(s). He gave up on the intercooler idea and went strait for Water/Methanol injection. According to him it was by far the easier route. Given, my buddy fabricated most of his own system, and his was a twin set up over the single the poster is thinking about but regardless, there are a lot of pieces and parts used for the STS rear mount turbo install and I can't see it being at all anywhere comparable to a Centrifugal install. The belt routing for your old Novi 2000 set up admittedly looked like kind of a bitch, but the S-Trim install according to most owners is a strait forward snap. The most involved part of it was tapping the oil pan and even then, it's not as difficult as some would lead you to believe. At least with the blower, you don’t need to go back beyond the oil pan......I wish the same could be said for the aft mounted turbo kits. :(

Addapting the kit to a pre-'05 Mustang may actually not be quite as bad, since the mufflers on the earlier fox and SN95's are located mid way through the exhaust, where the S197's have them right at the rear, but I still don't see the install being a walk in the park? :shrug:
 
gearbanger, you are comparing a kit to a one-off setup. the kit will at most, have to only be sligtly modified to work for the 04 and older models, whereas a homemade kit is a ****load of work.

alot say the [email protected] on a 3v sounds low. most forget thats running the turbo under its efficiency range. put it to 9-11psi with the fuel to match, and youre almost doubling the airflow.

and water/meth>any IC any day of the week, if you had to choose. i would run both, since id use a 2 stage setup from coolingmist.com, id run one nozzle before the fmic, then one after.
 
thomas91169 said:
gearbanger, you are comparing a kit to a one-off setup. the kit will at most, have to only be sligtly modified to work for the 04 and older models, whereas a homemade kit is a ****load of work.
Well, considering that the S197 is a completely different car from the SN95, all intake and exhaust areas are in different spots, different front suspension, brackets, undercarriage clearances, exhaust location, etc, etc are all different between these two cars. It's goint to take some serious cutting, bending and fabricating to make it work....so yes, I'd say that this kit, has just been turned back into a "one-off" set up, wouldn't you. ;) You'd probably have better luck addapting this kit to my Cougar than you would an SN95. At least it's got the mufflers located at the rear of the vehicle like an S197 and is about the same length. :D
 
Remote kits are neat...but I don't know if I would want to be the first (well there have been a few already) person to take the plunge and buy one "blind" so to speak.

Guy at my local track had a T/A with one...was a neat car to look at, but didn't really impress me with its speed (or lack there of). What was cool, though, was that it looked like a V6 firebird because of the plain-jane 2.5" tubing exhaust "tip" coming out the back :nice: