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ghostriders

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hi guys - I am debating between roush, kenny brown or maximum motorsports subframe connectors - I am leaning towards the kenny brown 'extreme' with cross members - any thoughts? I have a 2002 gt convertible w/saleen bodykit and suspension, and am about to supercharge it w/the saleen series iv deal -

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As long as they weld in you are unlikely to notice a difference between them.
 

blackfang

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Maximum Motorsports!
 

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I've got the MM full lenghts and love them. Big difference in chassis stiffness.
 

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I have them as well, plus they are extremely well built.
 

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Did someone call me...! opcorn:

Are you buying directly from Kenny Brown or what? Matrix braces are great. Jacking rails help a lot! ...And the SuperSubs... well they could be longer but they are nice.
 
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thanks, guys - I decided to get the matrix kit from Kenny Brown due to the larger area they cover - did buy them direct - and they were really cool to deal with KENNYBROWN.COM ...

rrrrrmmmmm......
 
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I thought they was shutting down the company....
 
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nah ... they are back.... on their website they describe Kenny's health challenges in the past and his comeback and his recent laps on the track...

rrrrrrrrmmmmmmmm....(barely legal)
 
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I'd still buy MM over KB.
 

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san~man said:
I'd still buy MM over KB.
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Does MM even offer a matrix brace or jacking rails? I like their subs though.
 

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Maximum Motorsports
 
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GDawg said:
Does MM even offer a matrix brace or jacking rails? I like their subs though.
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No, they don't. However, I could jack the car up on my MM FLSFC without any problems. In fact, I think KB is the only company that offers something like a "matrix brace" (I could be mistaken).

If companies like Griggs and MM, who consistently win AI and other competitions, didn't feel the need for such a brace, then I would think that the part is more a gimmick than a necessity. Griggs and MM only offer subframe connectors and no such other bracing.

Furthermore, unless the KB website is down, they don't offer any other parts other than a CC kit, strut tower brace, and brake duct kit. I tried clicking on "rear suspension" in the 94-04 section with no results. Their old PHB (can't see if they re-designed it) used to mount to the spare tire well, which was a poor design.

Overall, I felt more confident buying an MM part when I had the mustang, as I knew that everything was properly designed, and was easily upgradable in the future. Meaning, one could start with SFCs, then move on to springs/struts or C/O's, then to PHB, and to T/A if necessary without a doubt that everything would work as designed and promised.
 

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ghostriders said:
thanks, guys - I decided to get the matrix kit from Kenny Brown due to the larger area they cover - did buy them direct - and they were really cool to deal with KENNYBROWN.COM ...

rrrrrmmmmm......
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Congrats,i have most of the system on my GT,the jacking rails,and the subframe connectors,no complaints at all except i wish the subframe connectors were a little longer,but i like the clearance the give between my GT,and the ground.The jacking rails are an awesome piece to have for lowered cars,and give better strength to rocker pinch seem as oppose to the stock flimsy way.I have not yet decided on the Extreme Matrix Brace,so keep an up date on how it goes.
You will see that there is holes on one side of the rails to clear the push plugs for the side skirts,what i did was drilled a smaller hole on the other side of the rails,and took the push plugs from the skirts out,and attached allen headed bolts,and nuts with washers to give extra support for the rails,and the skirts along with the welding which was done first.
 
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san~man said:
No, they don't. However, I could jack the car up on my MM FLSFC without any problems. In fact, I think KB is the only company that offers something like a "matrix brace" (I could be mistaken).

If companies like Griggs and MM, who consistently win AI and other competitions, didn't feel the need for such a brace, then I would think that the part is more a gimmick than a necessity. Griggs and MM only offer subframe connectors and no such other bracing.

Furthermore, unless the KB website is down, they don't offer any other parts other than a CC kit, strut tower brace, and brake duct kit. I tried clicking on "rear suspension" in the 94-04 section with no results. Their old PHB (can't see if they re-designed it) used to mount to the spare tire well, which was a poor design.

Overall, I felt more confident buying an MM part when I had the mustang, as I knew that everything was properly designed, and was easily upgradable in the future. Meaning, one could start with SFCs, then move on to springs/struts or C/O's, then to PHB, and to T/A if necessary without a doubt that everything would work as designed and promised.
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saleen used to make a similar one - the tri-ladder subframe brace - it makes sense 'cause it spreads the support over more than just a metal 2x4...anyway, I have the KB's on the way



rrrmmmmmmmmm......
 
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ghostriders said:
saleen used to make a similar one - the tri-ladder subframe brace - it makes sense 'cause it spreads the support over more than just a metal 2x4...anyway, I have the KB's on the way



rrrmmmmmmmmm......
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I think Saleen had GW make them for them...

 
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