superchargers for sn95
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Hey,
Yeah I chose the v1-s trim for a few reasons. Cost was a factor as it's fairly cheap as an entry level supercharger vs. some of the larger units. Ease of installation wasn't a huge thing, but a vortech is extremely straightforward esp if you choose to run a v3 which is a sealed unit. Reliability was also a concern and the vortechs have a very strong track record.
That said, I dislike the fact you cannot run a proper intercooler (and you definately aren't running a strut brace with the outdated power cooler...which is a big no no for me). On high boost pulley combinations you will see people complain about the brackets trying to flex. This should not be a problem on a streetcar on moderate boost however. The stock inlet is crap. Throw it away and buy a power pipe. The blower will only take you 'so far'.
Realistically you need to plan a final goal before you purchase a blower and STICK TO IT. An s-trim on a good bottom end will max out a production shortblock, especially with a stroker. Around 550rwhp is a realistic figure without delving into race gas only apps and so forth. A novi 1200 is comparable to an s-trim. However I do not care for the cheap brackets and hardware or really the output specifics and background. That does not mean it's junk, but in the order of entry level, Id say powerdyne<novi 1200<strim.
The novi2000 is substantially larger than an s-trim. The housing is comparable to a Ysi or a procharger D1sc. The boost ramp rates are faster, and the overall output is far succeeding. The brackets/tensioning system are also top notch over the strim. You will pay at least $1k over an strim style setup though; but you can run a renegade car power wise with them. These are also non-intercooled.
The procharger is neat because you can intercool them. But they are expensive; the mounting location requires the battery to be relocated, the inlet is over the headers and is designed to really use more of a cowl feed effect; also the non dediacated belt issue.
For a first timer and a basic streetcar setup I'd suggest the vortech; esp their new Si (all s-trims now) internal gearset. The ramp rate is substantially faster and it performs much like a T-trim now. However it will share the helical cut gears like the SQ before it and will be a quiet blower. I had to special order my standard v1 strim as they quit making them with the straight cut gears and that was a HUGE selling point for me because I want and love an obnoxiously loud blower. As far as I know the other brands are still quite noisy.
I would also look into upgrading the bypass assembly. Having owned turbo cars, I like to hear the blow off valve even if it is being recirculated (this is a must on a draw through MAF setup...don't try to vent it to atmosphere). So upgrading to a noisy one might be more fun for you unless you like a subtle system. The Novi 2000 and the P1/D1sc both use a metal bypass valve. The s-trim uses a standard plastic bosch unit, although you can upgrade to their Mondo style unit; however the discharge on the inlet and the outlet pipes will need to be changed as it uses larger hoses.
All said, if I had to do it again; I'd be going back to my routes and turboing the bish. Most effective, most power, undrivable amounts of tq upon spoolup, and the ability to grow with the twist of a boost controller; just add the fuel and a decent block. However it is pricier, a harder install for the novice, and not really for the beginner at all. Packaging can become an issue, and your exhaust setup will change and you will loose the traditional sound. Turbo noises from a v8 are sick however
cliffs: begineer? Buy the v3-Si trim and call it a day.
$.02
-Tom
is that v3 si trim one of the noisier ones or is it a quite one? im more into the loud blowers make it known that its there so id like a louder one but just mainly wantin one thats got good performance and is a good system
HankyGT
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I believe they are all quiet now, but you can call vortech and possibly get a special order or ask their opinion. That's what I did.
whitesqual
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No, I can't find it anymore, but it wasn't posted too long ago. It must have been posted earlier this fall. It went on for like 3 pages.
Anyway, there were a bunch of dyno sheets, and the bottom line is that the Kenne Bell makes more low end torque than high end power, which is kind of pointless anyway. But it didn't really matter, because the centrifugals end up making so much more power on pump gas (and consiquently more total low end torque than the Kenne Bell) because of the better intercoolers available for them, and lower air temperatures to begin with.
Kurt
Anyway, I definately would recommend a centrifugal. It's a simpler install then a Kenne Bell, and there is a lot more information out there for them, because it's a very common mod. It also gives you more air where you need it, up in the rpm band.
Kurt
Kurt
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I am a fan of nitrous, I know..I know, But if i had to supercharged I'd go Paxton, but what i don't know poop! Procharger for our cars is located where the battery is or was....i don't like it, that's a automatic fail there, if the owner does not want to relocate the battery, they'd be cursing, and procharger was in fast and the furious, and i don't like the fast and the furious, That's the 2nd fail there,
Vortech; Everyone has it, That's a good thing, so it's proven, BUT everyone has it, Water to air or whatever cooler, that's a fail. LMAO
i like loud ass supercharger, What?! you want to go fast and be quiet?! FAIL!
Vortech; Everyone has it, That's a good thing, so it's proven, BUT everyone has it, Water to air or whatever cooler, that's a fail. LMAO
i like loud ass supercharger, What?! you want to go fast and be quiet?! FAIL!
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My................Cat................Eats......... .......Dogs!!!!!
Must be a big ass cat! or small ass dog....i am confused
Must be a big ass cat! or small ass dog....i am confused
It's funny how that goes back and forth between the different years. On our cars, the Procharger is run off the factory 6 rib belt. On the new Mustang it is the only kit that has an independent drive. For the 4.6 car, I actually like the Paxton the best, because it is available with a nice air to air intercooler. You have to make your own for a Vortech.
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