Take me to intake school...JLT vs. KN

Dragstr05 · May 23, 2007

Kilgore Trout said:
So you are saying the gains are minimal and he should instead spend some money on something that also produces minimal gains?

Are the gains minimal? Yes. But he already has a K&N, and if you get any noticable power out of an intake, its probably from the filter more than anything else. The stock intake tubing is plenty large enough for a near stock GT. The TB/Plenum combo would run around the same price, maybe a little more than a pretty intake. Gears would be a better option, but most end up paying extra for the install. I was only trying to reference him to a bolt on similar in price.

supastang03 · May 23, 2007

i have 3.73s and an xcal2 on the way....those would def. be my next mods.

wouldnt the TB/P combo be closer to 400...not 200...?

TB~200
P~200

StangYellow · May 24, 2007

My recommendation is to get a CAI off ebay for 40 bucks. Why people spend 250 for a "JLP, BBK, K&N" is beyond me. Its a piece of pipe with an air filter, plastic pipes shouldn't cost two hundred dollars. Its like buying a watch. You can buy one for $60 or buy one for $600 and brag about the name etched on the watch that only YOU can see.

Stangsgrl · May 24, 2007

^ I just bought my JLT for the looks since I show it...
Makes the engine look nice instead of some metal pipe or that crappy way the stock one looks IMO

does give it a nice whine...i've had a few ask if i have a s/c from car people...haha

StangYellow · May 24, 2007

A whine.... from an intake pipe...asking if its supercharged?

Wolvrin704 · May 24, 2007

5.0 Mustang mag has an article in their new edition where they did some basic bolt ons to a 2003 vert with 5 speed. They added a Cherry bomb cat, Accufab TB, JLT RAI, March pulleys and used a Diablosport Tune.

Before installation the car put out 213.97 RWHP. They then showed the improvement with each addition, the JLT added 3.59 RWHP after the cat and TB were added. All together they added 32.82 RWHP with this setup. The biggest gain was made with the TB adding 16.25 RWHP.

DropTopPony · May 24, 2007

I had this problem last year and looked at both of those companys and wound up getting a Tunable Induction instead of the JLT or K&N

www.demolet.com

javsvt · May 24, 2007

DropTopPony said:
I had this problem last year and looked at both of those companys and wound up getting a Tunable Induction instead of the JLT or K&N

www.demolet.com

X2, I absolutely love mine.

supastang03 · May 25, 2007

very nice...but sooooo expensive..

supastang03 · May 25, 2007

Wolvrin704 said:
5.0 Mustang mag has an article in their new edition where they did some basic bolt ons to a 2003 vert with 5 speed. They added a Cherry bomb cat, Accufab TB, JLT RAI, March pulleys and used a Diablosport Tune.

Before installation the car put out 213.97 RWHP. They then showed the improvement with each addition, the JLT added 3.59 RWHP after the cat and TB were added. All together they added 32.82 RWHP with this setup. The biggest gain was made with the TB adding 16.25 RWHP.

just a TB...no plenum??

wouldnt you need to have a TB and plenum setup to see any gains, not just a TB....?

Wolvrin704 · May 25, 2007

supastang03 said:
just a TB...no plenum??

wouldnt you need to have a TB and plenum setup to see any gains, not just a TB....?

I stand corrected.

I had to go back and recheck and you are correct, its a TB and plenum. All told they spent $1672.94 for 32 HP.

With all that said I too will be buying a JLT CAI within the next month. While I know the prerformance gain is minimal I like the looks of it. Plus I am planning on making my car faster N/A before I supercharge it, so more than likely will be adding some of the same items as in the article.

Stangsgrl · May 25, 2007

StangYellow said:
A whine.... from an intake pipe...asking if its supercharged?

maybe my tb/plenum accentuates it more but there is a "whine" which I didn't think was that loud. he heard it over mine and his ws6 exhaust.

but i do like my JLT

40th GT · May 25, 2007

Wolvrin704 said:
5.0 Mustang mag has an article in their new edition where they did some basic bolt ons to a 2003 vert with 5 speed. They added a Cherry bomb cat, Accufab TB, JLT RAI, March pulleys and used a Diablosport Tune.

Before installation the car put out 213.97 RWHP. They then showed the improvement with each addition, the JLT added 3.59 RWHP after the cat and TB were added. All together they added 32.82 RWHP with this setup. The biggest gain was made with the TB adding 16.25 RWHP.

214whp with a 5 speed PI GT? I'm not questioning your facts but that seems kinda low/disappointing. Is this the average hp # for our cars?

AmericanMetal · May 25, 2007

I put a K&N FIPK onto a stock tb/plenum. It made a louder air "whooshing" sound but didn't really notice much more power in and of itself. It did look like it provided way better airflow than the stock setup, which mattered to me because I'm slowly building up with bolt-ons before eventually going whole hog with a Procharger and I want the basics optimized first.

Next I replaced the stock setup with an Accufab 75 mm tb/plenum and a spacer. Now there was a MUCH more noticeable difference!! So the K&N could very well have been trying to help, but with the tiny intake in back of it, the benefit went unnoticed until enlarging the tb & plenum.

On the con side: I also had to leave off the bottom bracket due to rubbing, but it seems to hold on ok with just the one bracket. The black plastic isn't the most attractive thing in the world, especially with the polished stuff next to it, but at least there are no heat retention issues.

So I don't regret spending on the FIPK; it's one more component that I don't have to worry will create a bottleneck when it finally gets blown.

supastang03 · May 25, 2007

hmm well im still wanting that JLT...i think i just really like the looks.

steve_stang2003 · May 25, 2007

Stangsgrl said:
^ I just bought my JLT for the looks since I show it...
Makes the engine look nice instead of some metal pipe or that crappy way the stock one looks IMO

does give it a nice whine...i've had a few ask if i have a s/c from car people...haha

So does my wife.....Whine that is......

In hindsight, the CAI would have been a heck of a lot cheaper

Wolvrin704 · May 25, 2007

40th GT said:
214whp with a 5 speed PI GT? I'm not questioning your facts but that seems kinda low/disappointing. Is this the average hp # for our cars?

I've been wondering on that as well since I've heard allot of guys on here saying 230+ with a 5 speed. But I got the numbers directly from the mag.

Silvergto2 · May 28, 2007

Wolvrin704 said:
I've been wondering on that as well since I've heard allot of guys on here saying 230+ with a 5 speed. But I got the numbers directly from the mag.

I had my bone stock mustang dyno'd @ 216 RWHP. The guys at the shop that dyno'd my car said that was right where it should be for a bone stock Mustang GT in UTAH (Altitude).

Ordie · May 29, 2007

I dynoed mine

227.5 RWHP

Drop in K&N .. and some crappy exhaust set up the previous owner did, flowmaster mufflers welded into the stock pipes..

supastang03 · May 29, 2007

sooo i ordered the JLT from moranoracing.com

only 199...best price ive found (theyre around 220 everywhere else)

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