usa1 said:It simply makes no sense for Ford to bring out a V8 Mustang for under $20K in 2005. They do not need to do something like this for years. Demand in 2005 will be high for the new Mustang. Demand in 2006 will be high as well and the new Cobra and convertible will come out to add excitement and volume. It won't be until 2007 at the very earliest that Ford will feel a need to start tinkering with the Mustang to increase sales and interest.
Ford invested a lot of R&D and tooling into the new 2005 Mustang. They simply cannot afford to bring out the new car at the price the current V8 GTs are being discounted to. The current model has all its production tooling completely depreciated and paid for with no real R&D being charged to it for changes since 1999. The new Mustang needs to pay all these things off over the first few years. I'm guessing 5 years is the accounting norm for new car tooling.
Ford is making the new Mustang at the same plant that is making the Mazda 6. They do not need (and probably cannot without capacity problems) to sell 300,000 of the new Mustangs to keep the plant at full capacity. They estimated something like 150,000 to 180,000 units the first year. They don't need a $20K V8 to make this volume number. Demand will invariably drop to a normal level of 120,000 to 150,000 cars per year after the newness of the new car wears off and they will have the Mazda 6 volume to keep the plant humming and cost efficient.
Anyone who thinks $26K for a 300 HP V8 car on a new platform is too much has not shopped around recently. Nothing else on the market will beat the Mustang on the bang for the buck scale. Nothing.
Lastly, a $20K V8 Mustang starts the new Mustang off on the wrong foot. It makes Ford look desparate to sell this new car when the competitors are selling 4 cylinder FWD cars with a measly 180 HP for $22K. Ford wants to move the Mustang up market a bit, not start it off as a car immediately seen as cheap and discounted.
As much as it we would all like a $20K V8, it simple makes no sense.
All that being said, I hope Ford brings out a V8 powered Mustang for under $20K!
Mark
Omegalock said:And I don't think anybody is arguing for a 20k fully loaded and optioned GT. We are talking about a barebones interior in a V6 body with a GTs drivetrain. That's possible. Likely maybe not but definately possible.
siege said:on the contrary, I think ford NEEDs to do something like this. I don't think it will make them look desparate..it'll make them look awesome. they have virtually no competition in their class and this will just make sales go thru the roof. I see lots of GM owners switching over if this happens. if they want to take the market by storm with a new product, this is the way
holler said:the difference is not 1,000 dollars. the base model v6 will be 17000 and the base model v8 will 20000
And you know this how? At this point, 90% of this thread is rumor and speculation. So tell me how you know this for a fact. Show me proof.
holler said:
holler said:yes, i have no love for caranddriver either. i am as skeptical as they come. i should have rephrased my statement.
Mostly, I prefer to wait for Ford to release something. Now if the journalist would have stated that "Ford has stated the prices to be..." than I would be singing a different tune altogether. But the way he stated "probably" and "around" makes me think he is speculating just as we are here in this very thread. If it was that easy, then we would all be auto journalists for crappy car magazines too.
And thus will be the end to the ricer fad. Back will be the days of V8 roaming the streets battling it out without worrying about some ricer flying by 3 minutes later.yellow5.0cobra said:I think this will be beneficial to the performance enthusiast.
If Ford releases a 300hp V8 Mustang starting under $20k, then imagine what DODGE and GM might release in the same price range just to compete with it.
Possibly DODGE will encorporate their new HEMI into a nice RWD monster for about the same price range of $20k?
As for GM, well I know they WILL have a RWD vehicle soon that will probably be in direct competition as well.
Can there be a competitive price/HP war happening soon with all domestic car builders like the 60's? (Ford, GM, Mopar)
I guess we will just have to wait and find out... but I hope that Ford wont be at the BOTTOM of the pot as usual.
nito88stang said:And thus will be the end to the ricer fad. Back will be the days of V8 roaming the streets battling it out without worrying about some ricer flying by 3 minutes later.
Why bother buying a 180-200 hp 4 cyl FWD that is consider the "sporty" edition for 22,000 when you can buy a 300hp car for 20,000. Yes, Yes, Yes days will be good my friends. Less bwwwaahhhhhh bwaaaaah and more VROOOOOM VROOOOM!!!
Kyle-02GT said:I've heard rumors of a Hemi Powered Dodge Charger in the 07 time frame. I think it was on edmunds. The Camero isn't dead either its just taking a few years off...
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