The Official kiddiccarus 2007 NFL Thread

#1,101
Redline_351R said:
San Diego lost on their own merits. Their first mistake was shooting off at the mouth about how good pay back was going to be.


From now until the Indy game find me one article in the papers or online with Patriot players shooting off at the mouth saying how sweet its going to be taking down Indy after last season.


*Waits patiently for said article to be posted*

Despite other posts saying how the Patriots are arrogant, mouthy, and run their mouth I have yet so ever see anything proving that. Patriots haters its all it is
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ummmm........

it was the Patriots, all holy and mighty Patriots, who danced on the Chargers logo after beating them last year & performing the "lights out" dance...correct? :shrug:

just checkin...
 
#1,103
I dont see The Pats having the upper hand this season at all. The Colts are winning games with the 2nd string already. When the Colts/Pats play believe me all the starters will be on the field, if they go out they have a 2nd string that will be right in there ready to take their place and do a damn fine job. I think that this will be the toughest game that the Pats will play vs the Colts yet.
 
#1,104
wht93gtEd said:
ummmm........

it was the Patriots, all holy and mighty Patriots, who danced on the Chargers logo after beating them last year & performing the "lights out" dance...correct? :shrug:

just checkin...
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Just checking but is that a news paper article, online interview or statment that can be found as far as the Patriots mouthing off or being arrogant?

On field emotion and being cocky off the field is two different things. It was a playoff game and the chargers did nothing but run their suck before that game. The patriots didn't say a word, they did all the talking on the field and a little end of the game celebration never hurt anyone.

Strike two.

You want to play the game and make the accusations then provide the proof.
 
#1,105
kiddiccarus said:
I dont see The Pats having the upper hand this season at all. The Colts are winning games with the 2nd string already. When the Colts/Pats play believe me all the starters will be on the field, if they go out they have a 2nd string that will be right in there ready to take their place and do a damn fine job. I think that this will be the toughest game that the Pats will play vs the Colts yet.
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Lawarence Maroney, Out last two games

Rodney Harrison, Played one game

Richard Seymour, Yet to play a game this year.

Dan Koppen, Out last week

still undefeated.

I guess I could make the same argument.
 
#1,108
kmterrill said:
A lot of people think that the freshman Ryan Mallett might be even better than Brady was. In time we'll see... :shrug:
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LOL now we are comparing college freshman to brady :rlaugh:

I know you mean as a college QB but I really have a hard time talking about a college freshman in the same thread as a sure first ballot HOFer

wht93gtEd said:
ummmm........

it was the Patriots, all holy and mighty Patriots, who danced on the Chargers logo after beating them last year & performing the "lights out" dance...correct? :shrug:

just checkin...
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With all the **** the " lights out" chargers talked before that game the pats could have taken a team piss on the logo and I would have found it acceptable. That chargers team was the biggest **** talking group I ever saw... A bunch of showoffs who never won a dam thing.
 
#1,111
svttech76 said:
I agree with you on the throwing power and accuracy but I think brady holds the advantage in football iq.. Manning throws a excellent ball, is excellent on PA and reads a defense better than everybody except brady.. Overall They are so close I would be happy with either of them on my team... :) I am lucky that my team has one of them.

But anyways good post. I am happy to see a fan of a rival that can say good things about brady. :nice:
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Redline_351R said:
Im not just saying this from a Brady fan stand point but I think its to close to call. Brady can throw some Bombs and how do you have a completion rate of 80% if your not extremely accurate? Their IQ is to close to call as well they both manage and drive the offense like no other QB's in the game today. They are both extremely smart and are always making at the line adjustments. If Manning is better at either of those then its to close to call or be able to see on the field. As far as more heart Id definitely give that to Brady, the three rings prove that. You dont win 3 Superbowl's and two back to back with out tons of heart and that goes for the whole team as well.
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I was going to say, that Peyton has a slight edge in IQ but someone beat me to it saying that he calls his own plays. I realize brady reads stuff well and makes shifts to the OL and stuff, but i think the playcalling has a slight edge. I do however agree, he is one of the Best QB's ranked high up there with the rest of the greats. I also feel Peyton will be up there, and IMO Farve is already there. Lets see if Brady or Manning breaks some of farve's numbers in the future :shrug:
 
#1,112
Redline_351R said:
Just checking but is that a news paper article, online interview or statment that can be found as far as the Patriots mouthing off or being arrogant?

On field emotion and being cocky off the field is two different things. It was a playoff game and the chargers did nothing but run their suck before that game. The patriots didn't say a word, they did all the talking on the field and a little end of the game celebration never hurt anyone.

Strike two.

You want to play the game and make the accusations then provide the proof.
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Im sorry, If dancing the "lights out" dance on the Chargers logo isnt arrogant then WTF IS??? thats is crazy arrogant!!!! I do not think there is a differentiating factor between on the field and off the field cockyness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug17-hRH5e8
 
#1,113
svttech76 said:
WOW now we are comparing big ben to brady...

I am not trying to be a dick but if you can not see that brady is heads and shoulders better than all but one of current NFL qb's and equal to the other one that then your blind and there is nothing I can say to change your mind.

But I am still going to show how your logic is flawed.

You talk about how Brady and Rothlisburger (sp?) has been placed in situations that enable them to succeed but you left a giant glaring hole in your logic

MANNING

I noticed you failed to mention your boy when talking about great situations to be placed in. Once you did that you lost all credibility.

Manning has had a tremendously talented offense around him just about his entire career and brady has had a good solid overall team around him.. Much of the reason the patriots won three superbowls is because brady played his best in the post season.. He did not turn the ball over and had his biggest games in those years when it mattered the most.. I don't think many other QB's could do that.. In fact in NFL history only a few has played as well as brady has in the post season.. Guys like Starr and Montana come to mind.. I highly doubt many other qb's in the game today can match that, and a few of them has had the chance too. ( Farve, McNabb and others)

Both of them are better off where they are than they would be if they played for arizona or someplace like that, but both of them are the main reasons the teams they play for have been as good as they are.

BTW in 2005 and 2002 brady had terrible defenses and the same sub-par weapons and still put up pro bowl numbers.



SO let me get you point clear..

Brady is not that good and must be overrated according to you since just about everybody considers him to be the best or second best QB in the NFL.. According to you he has just been placed in a good situation, and they could have won with many other QB's In fact you mention him in the same breath as big ben, That I find humorous.

Is that your point? That Brady is overrated... You keep pointing out how he has great coaching and great players around him.. HHHMMM really why don't you up belichicks record before and after brady???

See the difference between me and you is I can take my homer goggles off for a minute and see other great players in the league. I don't knock down other players to try and make my binky look better.

So what is it.. Are you a extreme homer and that makes you blind or do you not know enough about the game to see some of the great things brady can and has done that most QB's in the history of the game can't that makes this patriots team what it has been.

I can point out exactly what makes brady and manning heads and shoulders above the rest, to me it's as obvious as the sun coming up tomorrow. I just don't get how you don't see it.

BTW Bledsoe was 5 years past prime HUH??? he was 29 when he got injured and replaced.. So what was his prime???? 23 years old
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You tards read way too much into my posts and try to put words in my mouth.

I wasnt comparing the talent of Big Ben and Brady. All I said was they were both put into awesome positions with really good overall teams from their first year on which gave tremendous advantages to win their rings.

Manning was not put into that same situation, yes the offense was great, but up until last years playoffs the defense had been terrible. Look what happend when Manning finally got some help on the defensive side of the ball.

Its obvious that Manning and Brady are the two best QBs. I have never said anything different.
 
#1,114
1990Coupe said:
Im sorry, If dancing the "lights out" dance on the Chargers logo isnt arrogant then WTF IS??? thats is crazy arrogant!!!! I do not think there is a differentiating factor between on the field and off the field cockyness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug17-hRH5e8
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Don't worry...Redline will find a way to twist it around in favor of the Patriots...then make some more excuses up.

If the Pats were so classy and great, even with the Chargers trash talking first, then they should've just won and proved their point that way...
 
#1,115
wht93gtEd said:
Don't worry...Redline will find a way to twist it around in favor of the Patriots...then make some more excuses up.

If the Pats were so classy and great, even with the Chargers trash talking first, then they should've just won and proved their point that way...
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Exactly!!! Their winning is enough rubbing in the face. :shrug:


ON ANOTHER NOTE:

Im still in my survivor pool.. I was debating picking the chargers over the Raiders... Good choice????
 
#1,116
1990Coupe said:
Exactly!!! Their winning is enough rubbing in the face. :shrug:


ON ANOTHER NOTE:

Im still in my survivor pool.. I was debating picking the chargers over the Raiders... Good choice????
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Chargers over Raiders huh....I think it's a good choice...considering the blow-out SD had last week...have they finally got their groove back? Maybe...

I think that's a good choice, but I don't want to be the demise of your survival pool!!
 
#1,119
1990Coupe said:
Well i was already bebating on the Chargers myself so it wouldn't be your fault.. That or the Bengals.... decisions decisions!!! If i win this pool the monies are going into the car fund :banana:
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bebating huh....

Bengals!?!??!?!!!! They're what, 1-3 or somthing...they're WAYYYYY to flakey...I'd probably even say KC in that game...

stick with the chargers for sure
 
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