The Official kiddiccarus 2007 NFL Thread

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04DarkShadowGT said:
You tards read way too much into my posts and try to put words in my mouth.

I wasnt comparing the talent of Big Ben and Brady. All I said was they were both put into awesome positions with really good overall teams from their first year on which gave tremendous advantages to win their rings.

Manning was not put into that same situation, yes the offense was great, but up until last years playoffs the defense had been terrible. Look what happend when Manning finally got some help on the defensive side of the ball.

Its obvious that Manning and Brady are the two best QBs. I have never said anything different.
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Tards!!!!! You the one that said Bledsoe was 5 years past his prime when he was 29 years old. and you call us the tards :p

We have to read into what you are saying?? Are we supposed to disregard stuff you say???

I disagree about your comments that the patriots would have won with many other qb's that what you said and I think it's wrong.

I pointed out how they had another QB ( bledsoe) who was a number 1 overall and in the prime of his career and they sucked with him and instantly became a superbowl winner with brady..

BTW Bledsoe had his best season the year after he was ran out of town and went to buffalo, so I find it hard to see your point that Bledsoe was 5 years past prime.

What I see is a Rookie brady was 5 times better than a in his prime Bledsoe.
 
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svttech76 said:
Tards!!!!! You the one that said Bledsoe was 5 years past his prime when he was 29 years old. and you call us the tards :p

We have to read into what you are saying?? Are we supposed to disregard stuff you say???

I disagree about your comments that the patriots would have won with many other qb's that what you said and I think it's wrong.

I pointed out how they had another QB ( bledsoe) who was a number 1 overall and in the prime of his career and they sucked with him and instantly became a superbowl winner with brady..

BTW Bledsoe had his best season the year after he was ran out of town and went to buffalo, so I find it hard to see your point that Bledsoe was 5 years past prime.

What I see is a Rookie brady was 5 times better than a in his prime Bledsoe.
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Look at what I write, dont read into it any further. You said that I said Big Ben was as good as Brady. I didnt, I said both were put into great situations with good teams and great coaching that helped them win their titles.

You wont hear me argue that Bledsoe is just as good as Brady.

Bledose was never a number 1 overall QB in the NFL. He may have been drafted #1 but his overall career numbers and even in his best year are just above average. His career averages were 77 rating 19tds, 15ints, and a 57% completion percentage. He has an overall record if 98-96, that again is average.
 
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svttech76 said:
Around here we consider that the pre season.. it's what you do in the playoffs. For example as far as I am concerned the pats were 2-1 last year.. The colts were 3-0 :mad: and the chargers were 0-1 :rlaugh: :p
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:lol: Thats a good way of looking at it, I never thought of it that way before.

1990Coupe said:
Im sorry, If dancing the "lights out" dance on the Chargers logo isnt arrogant then WTF IS??? thats is crazy arrogant!!!! I do not think there is a differentiating factor between on the field and off the field cockyness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug17-hRH5e8
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:lol: :lol:

Thats a riot :rlaugh: :rlaugh:

Even the commentator is saying it was "uncharacteristic" behavior meaning its not common or not like them, which backs up my previous statements b/c if they were a mouth $hit talking team they would be known for that. Not for a team that never says anything.

As far as the video all I can say is that the Chargers had it coming What they said in the media is no more worse then excessive celebration on the field by the patriots. And the Patriots bitch slapped them again this season and what did they say about it or do after the game??????......nothing
 
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04DarkShadowGT said:
Look at what I write, dont read into it any further. You said that I said Big Ben was as good as Brady. I didnt, I said both were put into great situations with good teams and great coaching that helped them win their titles.

You wont hear me argue that Bledsoe is just as good as Brady.

Bledose was never a number 1 overall QB in the NFL. He may have been drafted #1 but his overall career numbers and even in his best year are just above average. His career averages were 77 rating 19tds, 15ints, and a 57% completion percentage. He has an overall record if 98-96, that again is average.
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You are making my point...

You SAID many other QB's could have won with those patriots teams and here I am pointing out how a average to slightly better than average QB lead this team THE exact same team as brady had in 01 NOWHERE!!!

Many other QB's implies average or slightly better and I am showing you how thats wrong.


So if a average qb led this team to 6-10 and brady led the same team to a superbowl win then what does that make brady?

Same thing with big ben except in his case I think they had far below average qb's there before him. remove crap qb and insert Big ben and all of a sudden they got much better.
 
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First year Brady took them to and won the superbowl the coaching staff was the same as when Bledsoe was in there. Bledsoe goes down hurt and Brady takes over. No one can say for sure if Beldsoe would have taken them to and won the Superbowl like Brady did but Id take odds on the fact that he wouldnt have.


Said it before and will say it again. Cant take any QB and drop them into a good "system" and get the same results. There are a lot more factors then that involved.

Its like taking a motor out of one car and dropping it into another and expecting to run the same 1/4 times as the previous car (talking about two different cars) it just wont happen.
 
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Redline_351R said:
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Thats a riot :rlaugh: :rlaugh:

Even the commentator is saying it was "uncharacteristic" behavior meaning its not common or not like them, which backs up my previous statements b/c if they were a mouth $hit talking team they would be known for that. Not for a team that never says anything.

As far as the video all I can say is that the Chargers had it coming What they said in the media is no more worse then excessive celebration on the field by the patriots. And the Patriots bitch slapped them again this season and what did they say about it or do after the game??????......nothing
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Actually in that report it said that the Patriots were "claiming" that the chargers were talking smack.. Regardless because of there calm cool and collectness, they should have let the scoreboard do the talking, not the dance :shrug:


In other news about QB's and good teams and what not... In 1990 the giants went to the superbowl.. Interestingly enough, Phil Simms when down with an injury and Jeff Hostetler.. with only 68 career passes as a pro.. came in, and won the last 2 games for the gmen.. and won the superbowl. You have to admit, having a good surrounding team around him, thats what heavily aided in helping win those games no? :shrug:


PS. who was the Defensive coordinator of the Superbowl Giants???






Bill Belichick
 
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1990Coupe said:
In other news about QB's and good teams and what not... In 1990 the giants went to the superbowl.. Interestingly enough, Phil Simms when down with an injury and Jeff Hostetler.. with only 68 career passes as a pro.. came in, and won the last 2 games for the gmen.. and won the superbowl. You have to admit, having a good surrounding team around him, thats what heavily aided in helping win those games no? :shrug:


PS. who was the Defensive coordinator of the Superbowl Giants???


Bill Belichick
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:dead: jesus christ give it up :nonono:
 
#1,129
I'll be watching most of the game at work but will be here in time to catch most of the 4th quarter, I usually get home about 6:45 so hopefully I dont miss to much during the time I leave work and get home. Good thing its on the radio to.

I feel as though it will be the same outcome for the Patriots as it has been the past 5 weeks. I just dont think Dallas has it all together enough to take down a team the caliber of the Patriots and that was apparent last week VS Buffalo which will turn out to be their down fall. First time Romo throws an INT if its early in the game his confidence will be rattled b/c of last weeks spectacle. Hopefully Im right we will all find out later tonight and can put all the talk behind us until the next big game. Hopefully I'll be doing lots of this :banana: :banana: :banana: once I get to post tonight.


GO NEW ENGLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Redline_351R said:
I'll be watching most of the game at work but will be here in time to catch most of the 4th quarter, I usually get home about 6:45 so hopefully I dont miss to much during the time I leave work and get home. Good thing its on the radio to.

I feel as though it will be the same outcome for the Patriots as it has been the past 5 weeks. I just dont think Dallas has it all together enough to take down a team the caliber of the Patriots and that was apparent last week VS Buffalo which will turn out to be their down fall. First time Romo throws an INT if its early in the game his confidence will be rattled b/c of last weeks spectacle. Hopefully Im right we will all find out later tonight and can put all the talk behind us until the next big game. Hopefully I'll be doing lots of this :banana: :banana: :banana: once I get to post tonight.


GO NEW ENGLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It's only right for each indivual to cheer on his team.......with that said

GO DALLAS :banana:
 
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