I'm not discounting the 4.6L because of the power it makes in stock trim. I'm discounting it for being short on displacement and long on complexity and price.
What I chose to sink into it and what I could have put into it are two different things. The engine was built to handle well over 650hp. The blower I ended up going with barely put out a little more than half of that. With a more capable blower, it would have been an easy 500-600hp capable engine....and that's through factory heads!
The car was a fully loaded, full weight Mercury Cougar XR7 with working A/C and all the bells and whistles. I ran mid-12's with 3.27’s, through an IRS rear end and power sucking 4R70W and a curb weight of nearly 4,100lbs with driver. It was also making 360lbs/ft of torque at 1,800RPM.
Little more than cleaned up PI heads and 9psi through a teeny tiny 90ci 3rd Gen Eaton supercharger. Stock block, stock cams, stock displacement. The engine would have propelled a Mustang easily into the 11's just the way it sat and still knocked off mid/high 20's on the highway.
I wouldn’t havea hope in hell of running those times, or making that kind of power with a 5.0L OHV with little more than cleaned up E7TE’s and an equivalent amound of airflow being pumped into it...and the Mustang weights almost 800lbs less.
To discount the 2V 4.6L because they didn't make a lot of power in stock trim is silly. Especially since the ones giving them the thumbs down, are the same ones who continue to drool all over the 5.0L OHV. The same 5.0L OHV that made a full 35hp less than the 4.6L they're thumbing their noses at.
+1.... Bolt on parts for pushrod engines are stupid cheap. Boost on mod motors is more cost effective IMO. For what it costs to buy cams, heads, etc, etc you can buy a blower and go.I'm not discounting the 4.6L because of the power it makes in stock trim. I'm discounting it for being short on displacement and long on complexity and price.
So no squirrel huh?
We already got you, Noobz. Why do we need another squirrel?
I guess it all depends on what you're used to. You'll spend as much on a H/C/I 5.0L OHV as you would on a blower only 4.6L SOHC...and you may still fall short of the modular power and torque numbers and will most certainly fall short in the drivability and efficiency dept. On the other hand, a blower only 5.0L OHV in most cases barely eclipses the 300hp mark...a feat that could easily be accomplished with bolt ons with the 4.6L.I'm not discounting the 4.6L because of the power it makes in stock trim. I'm discounting it for being short on displacement and long on complexity and price.
I guess it all depends on what you're used to. You'll spend as much on a H/C/I 5.0L OHV as you would on a blower only 4.6L SOHC...and you may still fall short of the modular power and torque numbers and will most certainly fall short in the drivability and efficiency dept. on the other hand...a blower only 5.0L OHV in most cases barely eclipses the 300hp mark...a feat that could easily be accomplished with bolt ons with the 4.6L.
It's not quite such a cut and dry comparison. The OHV is easier and cheaper to modify argument only seems to carry weight at certain power levels. I'd say they're about 50/50 for the most part.
While I'll agree it's not so cut and dry, you'll have to admit most mod motors use pd blowers, whereas most of the time you'll find a centri on a pushrod motor, which is tons more efficient. And I'm quite sure the statement about not finding blown pushrod mills that top 300hp is incorrect to say the least. The bottom of the line S trim v3 vortech will give you 360 on mild boost. Pulley it up for more... An si trim is enough to get you in trouble, and a ysi will split the block. My main complaint with a pushrod engine (they are all overhead valve) is the weak point of the block at + - 500hp. Enter the dart block.
Get somebody to give each of us 10k for a build and I'll KILL a mod motor with a windsor all day long..
Sweet heater hoses man! I was asked on a different thread why I elected to go 4.6 4V with a turbo and remove my S-trimmed 5.0...short answer-cuz I wanted to...
A blower only 302 OHV under these same conditions, won't. Those stock ET7E head and intake really choke them up. Most blower only 302's I've seen are running around the 280-310rwhp range. Change their heads and intake and sure....they're running right up there with the modular crowd and perhaps even more so depending on the heads and intake they're running with...but this adds to the overall cash outlay, which kinda hurts the "cost effency" argument for the OHV crowd.
Didn't Sharad put a blower on a stock 302 and run deep 11s?
This guy also did something similar to run 11s. After he accomplished that, he took it a step further and ran 10s with asinine levels of boost and meth.
There are lots of examples out there of stock 5.0s with superchargers running very fast. The problem with arguing about what engine is better with boost in the equation though, is that it's a 'tard fight. Pretty much anything can be fast with forced induction, just ask John Huber and his 8-second 2.3L.
...and 10K won't get you as far as you think it will with either engine.
....and minds are small as well apparently.Uh, no. It won't get YOU as far as YOU think. I live the the good ol' US of A where Mustang parts are cheap.
Wow...this has turned into a helluva pissin' match.
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