Tinting windows on a S197.

Uncle Meat · Oct 12, 2006

I'll get with my tint guy today and ask him what he knows about this if anything. We had to reschedule our appointment for Monday so that gives me a little time.

Thanks for the input!

U.M.

YardSpecial · Oct 12, 2006

Yup, S197 don't like tint.........

McQueens Dream · Oct 12, 2006

manystangs said:
What brand of tint does "Your Guy" use?
Thanks

Johnson Window Film. i have personally never had ANY scrathces appear on any of my tint, on any of my cars, including my wife's 06 GT, except the ones that were tinted with Llumar or any other brand of tint. i am sure there are people out there that like Llumar and think it's the best, i am sure some people think Gila is good too, however, look both of them up on the web, and look at their warranty, it is not nearly as good as some of the others. i can't speak of 3M because i have never used it, so it is up to that person to decide. i have had 16 vehicles tinted with Johnson Window Film, and not one has ever scratched or discolored. is it the best, i don't know. i am sure there is better out there somewhere, but i am happy with what i have.

here's another thing to think about, if you use the moleskin on your car, and for some reason it comes off and gets rolled down into the door and jambs up the window, not saying it could happen, but what if. do you think your warranty will cover it since you added something to it? i would have to say probably not. i am not a mechanic, nor am i a professional tinter, but i would think a professional would make sure they warranty their work, even against scrathces. if they use a good quality tint.

LV51FER · Oct 12, 2006

So the question here is "Where can I get felt?" (chortle...)

manystangs · Oct 12, 2006

McQueens Dream said:
Johnson Window Film. i have personally never had ANY scrathces appear on any of my tint, on any of my cars, including my wife's 06 GT, except the ones that were tinted with Llumar or any other brand of tint. i am sure there are people out there that like Llumar and think it's the best, i am sure some people think Gila is good too, however, look both of them up on the web, and look at their warranty, it is not nearly as good as some of the others. i can't speak of 3M because i have never used it, so it is up to that person to decide. i have had 16 vehicles tinted with Johnson Window Film, and not one has ever scratched or discolored. is it the best, i don't know. i am sure there is better out there somewhere, but i am happy with what i have.

here's another thing to think about, if you use the moleskin on your car, and for some reason it comes off and gets rolled down into the door and jambs up the window, not saying it could happen, but what if. do you think your warranty will cover it since you added something to it? i would have to say probably not. i am not a mechanic, nor am i a professional tinter, but i would think a professional would make sure they warranty their work, even against scrathces. if they use a good quality tint.

Thank You. I believe they used the lumar on mine w/o Mole Skin. It scratched and they are going to replace it, but will charge me $30.00 to install the Mole Skin. I was going to do it myself but for $30.00 I'll let them do it and if there are any further problems it is on them.

ShowYa06 · Oct 12, 2006

I talked to my guy as well, locally and he said order the kit and give him a call. He never knew anything about this until customers after me starting coming back on him.

FLY2kGT · Oct 12, 2006

LV51FER...there is a link in my reply above for the felt. ++
McQueen's Dream...you said you had 16 cars tinted in the last five years with Johnson Window Film and there were no scratches except the ones you tinted with different brands? Not sure what you mean by that, but either you still have a bunch of cars or you haven't had the vehicles long enough to evaluate different tints imo. Down here in Florida where just about every car has tint, you'll find that Llumar is the number one choice. LLumar has a lifetime warranty and Johnson film has a 3 year warranty...like you said, to each his own but to be honest, a lot has to do with the installer. And about the moleskin...you can what if stuff all day long, but the truth is that if you install the moleskin with the proper glue, it's no more likely to fall off than your tint. Don't wanna start a war here, just replying to your reply.

McQueens Dream · Oct 12, 2006

not a problem man, and you are right, we don't keep vehicles very long around our house, we like to trade, and often. we will be keeping the 06 though, so we'll see. i know what Johnson's warranty says, but my installer stands behind it as long as i own the car, so it's no big deal to me. around here Llumar is junk, but down there, maybe it's the best, who knows? it was just my opinion, and you gave yours, no hard feelings. it's all good.

Uncle Meat · Oct 27, 2006

Well y'all can start calling me a dumb-ass for not listening now.

I discussed the need for felt with my installer and he assured me he has not received any reports of scratches from the S197's he's done thus far. I opted to go ahead and let him do the tinting sans felt. Sure enough, 9 days later the tint is scratched. I ordered the moleskin yesterday and will make another appointment to have the old stuff removed and then reapplied once I install the moleskin...

U.M.

bigcat · Oct 27, 2006

Uncle Meat said:
Well y'all can start calling me a dumb-ass for not listening now.
U.M.

oh well, happens to everyone at some point or another.

Uncle Meat · Oct 27, 2006

bigcat said:
oh well, happens to everyone at some point or another.

True... I should have went with what I read here and my gut feeling. Instead I was in a hurry and didn't want to wait...

U.M.

timeless2 · Oct 27, 2006

Have to say, John....we told ya so!

Uncle Meat · Oct 27, 2006

timeless2 said:
Have to say, John....we told ya so!

What... you got a mouse in yer pocket or something?

U.M.

timeless2 · Oct 27, 2006

Uncle Meat said:
What... you got a mouse in yer pocket or something?

U.M.

Is the installer eating the cost of having it redone (apologies, if I missed that part) the right way?

Uncle Meat · Oct 27, 2006

timeless2 said:
Is the installer eating the cost of having it redone (apologies, if I missed that part) the right way?

Oh yeah. He gives a lifetime warranty on all his work and materials no questions asked. He assured me based on his previous jobs on the S197's that he's never had anyone complain. So I guess I'm his first!

U.M.

timeless2 · Oct 27, 2006

Uncle Meat said:
Oh yeah. He gives a lifetime warranty on all his work and materials no questions asked. He assured me based on his previous jobs on the S197's that he's never had anyone complain. So I guess I'm his first!

U.M.

Good deal.

So, in this case....
Internet forum advice > his s197 tinting experience

McQueens Dream · Oct 27, 2006

glad to hear he is standing by his work. we are going on 2 months now with no scratches and no moleskin, guess some cars are different?

iskwezm · Oct 27, 2006

Ive had mine done about 4 times, mainly from the corners rolling up(months after), the scratches i gave up on am too lazy to put the moleskin.

ShowYa06 · Oct 27, 2006

Moleskin in mine this week, so long to the scratches

Emay · Oct 30, 2006

Most of the reputable tinters know about the design flaws before they hit the floor. Especially when they are connected with dealership work or Sema car prepping.

I was told about the current rubber strip before I even asked the price on the job. It was explained to me up front that felt was needed and then it was shown to me when I arrived.

Those that are anal about their cars might get away with not applying the felt for quite some time. The very first time and dirt or grime get on that rubber strip, the tint will likely scratch. This is not a tint quality issue by any means. It's ford's design that is the flaw.

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