Top End Upgrade??

mikestang63 · Mar 31, 2015

billbosc said:
Fresh 306 Never been started EVER
• 306cid (302 +.030) Windsor shortblock, 28oz balance
• Approx.. 9:1 compression
• '87 302 roller block single piece real seal using early crank
• Keith Black Hypo-18 forged pistons KB707
• Romac 28oz harmonic dampner, elastomer, steel/with steel hub, 3&4 bolt pulley pattern
• Sealed Power moly rings
• Cloyes True-Roller timing chain p/n 9-9135
• Milodon 190,000psi rod bolts p/n 82390
• Melling Hi-volume oil pump p/n M86HV
• Canton 7qt street oil pan p/n 15-610
• AFR 165 64cc Aluminum cylinder heads p/n 1400
• Holley 650cfm double pumper carburetor p/n 0-4777C
• Holley mechanical fuel pump p/n 12-289-11
• Edelbrock Performer RPM Air-gap p/n 7521
• Harland Sharp roller rocker arms 1.6 ratio p/n 4003
• Erson hardened pushrods pn/ E917251
• Crane PowerMax hydraulic flat tappet camshaft & lifters p/n H272-2
• Felpro performance head gaskets p/n 10111
• ARP stainless 12pt fasteners p/n 554-9501
• ARP head studs
• Summit cast aluminum tall valve covers, plain p/n SUM-G3322
• Billet specialties aluminum oil breather p/n 20120
• New early style timing cover with timing pointer
• Milodon high volume aluminum water pump, early style p/n 16230
• Chrome O-ring type thermostat housing p/n M8592C302
• Chrome alternator bracket, early style
• Ford Motorsports billet aluminum pulleys: crank, alt. waterpump p/n M8509C
• Summit rolling engine cradle p/n SUM-G1051

hmmmmmmmmmmm
who built it
never started
9:1 compression - very low- how did he come by that.
28oz balanced in a roller b- you'll need a matching flywheel
crane cam with low lift and rpm range
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/crn-443941/overview/make/ford
RPM Range: 1,800 to 5,400 rpm; Duration @ .050" lift: 216/228 (int/exh); Valve lift: .484"/.512" (int/exh); Good low end torque, smooth idle, daily driving, towing, mildly modified.;
AFR decent heads but the 64CC will lower your compression more. what springs on the heads
Not a fan of high volume oil pumps on most stockish motors. No reason for them other than to pump more oil out of the pan faster. If you drain back holes can't handle it then you accomplish nothing.
High Volume Oil Pump

Overall, not my choice in parts- dont know why the non roller cam, crank, balancer,
Certainly not getting you 450 hp

How much does he want for it.

billbosc · Mar 31, 2015

1950. and this is why i posting because I dont know all the spec stuff like a lot of people on here.

billbosc · Mar 31, 2015

and as stated before i would replace the cam with trickflow stage 1. as for compression.... idk how he came by it. i wanna get alist of things i need to ask this guy. because my list of questions is. 1. whats lowest u will take right now.. 2. whats your address.

TOOLOW91 · Mar 31, 2015

As far as the Pistons that must be a very old pn because I can't find any hard specs on them besides some posts where guys said they used them and it's a low comp flat top piston

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billbosc · Mar 31, 2015

Low comp is good with the supercharger no?

billbosc · Mar 31, 2015

It seems like it was built obviously for an older car. all the earl stuff on it that would need to be changed. brackets, timing cover and such.

mikestang63 · Mar 31, 2015

I would never buy a motor without seeing it run or taking it apart. Unless I can see all the parts or he has receipts, I assume it is stock internals and would price it as such. You have no clue how this was assembled or with what parts. It sounds like a bunch of parts thrown together.

Rather than chasing unicorns, why not build what you want the first time and be done with it, knowing it is built right.

TOOLOW91 · Mar 31, 2015

mikestang63 said:
I would never buy a motor without seeing it run or taking it apart. Unless I can see all the parts or he has receipts, I assume it is stock internals and would price it as such. You have no clue how this was assembled or with what parts. It sounds like a bunch of parts thrown together.

Rather than chasing unicorns, why not build what you want the first time and be done with it, knowing it is built right.

ESP If spending the money to do it right isn't an issue ! I have done this a few times 3 to be exact . The first motor I bought lasted a month and broke the crank . I paid 1500 for it

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89oem · Apr 1, 2015

its a game, same ones you learn in high school right.... the seller never had an offer, people want what they can't have....

just walk away

billbosc · Apr 2, 2015

Yea I gave up on it. He seemed almost not interested? Idk. Anyway. Just gonna do a head gasket kit.. Probably should just order some heads since im going in anyway. Thinking what ones would be best? Latemodel has the edelbrock and sve and trickflow and afr. blah blah blah. you all know im sure lol.

TOOLOW91 · Apr 2, 2015

billbosc said:
Yea I gave up on it. He seemed almost not interested? Idk. Anyway. Just gonna do a head gasket kit.. Probably should just order some heads since im going in anyway. Thinking what ones would be best? Latemodel has the edelbrock and sve and trickflow and afr. blah blah blah. you all know im sure lol.

TFS TW . Fel pro 9333pt1 head gaskets . Change the timing chain while your in there too . And a decent intake manifold being that it is off as well

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90lxwhite · Apr 2, 2015

billbosc said:
Yea I gave up on it. He seemed almost not interested? Idk. Anyway. Just gonna do a head gasket kit.. Probably should just order some heads since im going in anyway. Thinking what ones would be best? Latemodel has the edelbrock and sve and trickflow and afr. blah blah blah. you all know im sure lol.

So no more rebuilding the bottomend? You're scatter braining on us again...
Did you get your trouble codes worked out? They'll follow you with the new top end.

addermk2 · Apr 2, 2015

how do I unsubscribe from this pile of crap thread?

billbosc · Apr 2, 2015

Lol. Definitely scattered out. I agree. It's hard though when I have so many options lol. And of course I am in a hurry to have it going. @addermk2 at this point I completely understand.. As for trouble codes the tps code/ is only one I can't fix. Meter was reading
.86 volts so it's in range. Goin to get a new one. Buuuuut....... Another option I have is there is a 302 5.0 on local craogslist out of a explorer for 600. So again I have another option. I could simply get this motor, swap out mine, put this one in and have the car at least in shape to tune and run. Maybe slow my hurried butt down and can rebuild my motor from bottom up knowing exactly what has been done to it and who has done what. Anyway. Yea I get it. I'm all over the place. You guys give me options and ideas and those spin off into other things and I get scattered. Apologies if offended. Not intended. I just want it to be correct but I also get in a rush. I jump on here to get an experienced opinion or two and end up apparently pissing people off lol

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billbosc · Apr 2, 2015

But again I get it. Gotta be hard to read some of this stuff over and over and back forth when u have done this before and just simply wish you could reach out and ring my neck and tell at me.

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mikestang63 · Apr 2, 2015

addermk2 said:
how do I unsubscribe from this pile of crap thread?

MS DOS prompt: type

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02 281 GT · Apr 2, 2015

mikestang63 said:
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Works every time.

addermk2 · Apr 2, 2015

mikestang63 said:
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tried it... didn't work.

89oem · Apr 2, 2015

OK stop smoking your profits, buy this and report back when ordered and ship date confirmed

Trick Flow Mustang Top End Engine Kit Stage 2 Black (87-93) w/ Track Heat Intake 5.0

mikestang63 · Apr 2, 2015

addermk2 said:
tried it... didn't work.

the hell you did .lol

This one will do it for sure cipher /w:c

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