Oh yeah, don't get me wrong. The '85 T-5 was rated at the same 265lbs/ft as the later units, I was just referring to their less smooth shifting ability because of their use of non tapered roller bearing design with regards to the countershaft, synchroniser durability, cost to rebuild, etc. That's why I and many others don't regard them as high as the later "World Class" units. As moonenn3186 stated, torque rating doesn’t tell the whole story..…add a little traction and you’ll scatter pretty much any T-5 across the pavement. It’s all going to depend on driving style and how you use (abuse) it.