Trick Flow Street Heat Install Comments

[Black95GTS]

1 - The SN95 elbow adapater was missing the 4 5/16 bolts that go from the elbow to the upper plenum.

2 - The upper plenum also did not come with enough fittings to block off vacuum holes.

3 - The front of the lower wasn't machined enough so the steel fuel line that connects the fuel rails together had to be bent a bit in order to the get the dizzy back in. When I say not machined enough they should have taken out another 1/2 inch into the front of the lower. I had to use a rubber hammer to bend the fuel line in order to get the dizzy to seat.

4 - The elbow adapter mates like crap to my TB. The gasket is good but damn it barely seals it in.

So I need to hit up NAPA for 4 5/16s coarse threaded studs and a couple vacuum fittings before I can be done. It sucks because I have everything set and by the time we buttoned up the job to the point where I am missing pieces all we needed to do was torque the upper on and set the timing, about 30 mins of work.

It took about 3 hours to take everything apart and scrape all the old gaskets off. We worked another hour till when we had to stop due to parts. Total time is about 4.5 hours. Keep in mind this is my first time and we drank steadily the entire time.

Overall I'm not impressed with design of the pieces or the lack of necessary parts. I actually checked off the parts list and had everything they were supposed to send. THey did stupid things like KNOWING there were 4 vacuum openings on the bottom of the upper and only sending me 3 plugs . Phone calls will be issued come monday.

Anyone else find anything similar with this piece?

Adam

 

[divit250r]

I bought my intake off Ebay, so all I got were the upper and lower. I ordered a phenolic spacer from Summit and got the gaskets and hardware in that kit, so all I was missing was the elbow bolts.

1: Same here, but I also ordered a stainless bolt kit from Summit and had plenty of hardware to make this work.

2: If I remember correctly, I had to take one fitting from my stock upper intake, and it wasn't too major of a problem.

3: I had to take a die grinder to mine. It wasn't that the cut was in the wrong place, they just roughed two semi-circles in together and the problem was the high spot between the centers of the ball-milled cuts.

4: Mine didn't line up well either, but I took it for granted that it was because of the Professional Products T/B.

Sounds like you made good time though, and I couldn't be happier with the intake as a whole, myself. See if you have the 'plug' or fitting you need on your stock upper and that may help you out a little. Just my .02

Scott

 

[mytight95]

the intake is made for the fox style car.... which have more vacuum fittings than our car, your right about the fuel rail, i used a die grinder with a cone burr, plenty of room after about 5 min.

this was helping on a buddies car, he now has a systemax on it, that was a nightmare(the holley) you just thing the trick flow is bad.....



jason

 

[final5-0]

1 - The SN95 elbow adapater was missing the 4 5/16 bolts that go from the elbow to the upper plenum.

2 - The upper plenum also did not come with enough fittings to block off vacuum holes.

3 - The front of the lower wasn't machined enough so the steel fuel line that connects the fuel rails together had to be bent a bit in order to the get the dizzy back in. When I say not machined enough they should have taken out another 1/2 inch into the front of the lower. I had to use a rubber hammer to bend the fuel line in order to get the dizzy to seat.

4 - The elbow adapter mates like crap to my TB. The gasket is good but damn it barely seals it in.

So I need to hit up NAPA for 4 5/16s coarse threaded studs and a couple vacuum fittings before I can be done. It sucks because I have everything set and by the time we buttoned up the job to the point where I am missing pieces all we needed to do was torque the upper on and set the timing, about 30 mins of work.

It took about 3 hours to take everything apart and scrape all the old gaskets off. We worked another hour till when we had to stop due to parts. Total time is about 4.5 hours. Keep in mind this is my first time and we drank steadily the entire time.

Overall I'm not impressed with design of the pieces or the lack of necessary parts. I actually checked off the parts list and had everything they were supposed to send. THey did stupid things like KNOWING there were 4 vacuum openings on the bottom of the upper and only sending me 3 plugs . Phone calls will be issued come monday.

Anyone else find anything similar with this piece?

Adam

Adam

I had to buy a plug/fitting or two for my RPM IIRC

Didn't have to do any grinding however

You just kinda have to expect stuff like that if your gonna hot rod Stangs.

Grady

 

[mytight95]

Adam



You just kinda have to expect stuff like that if your gonna hot rod Stangs.

Grady

well put......



jason

 

[Black95GTS]

I didn't have to end up die grinding anything, we managed to finesse it all in. The guy that was helping me regularly builds mid 30's T-buckets so lets just say he has some engine building experience not to mention every tool you could think of.

This was actually the 1st fuel injected car he'd ever gone into. He wasn't impressed with Trickflow at all, but he said the results were definately there as I took him for a ride before and after.

Overall butt dyno results:

- idle sounds nastier
- I think the car wants more timing, I'm gonna play with the tweecer sunday and post back some results
- lost a tad on the bottom end
- from 2000 to 5000 or so it pulls a ton smoother and harder, I'm gonna be in trouble on the highway

The 12 point drivers bolt on the upper is impossible to get a socket on so I snugged it up best I could and torqued the rest.

Overall it was much more of a pain then anticipated, but the results are definately there. I would do it again.

Next up: 125 shot and 4.10s! Cam and heads to come in the spring (I think).

 

[mo_dingo]

My track heat intake didn't need anything changed at all. Sorry to hear this about the street heat.
Scott

 

[88GT460]

A friend and I just did this install, same problems with the fuel line and pcv vaccum hose. Other than that, we had to get the bolts for the adapter to upper, and get a plug for the extra hole on the upper...

The Holley I had on my old 94 convertible took the same amount of time.. I think it included intake gaskets though which the TF does not.

Personally, I think the Holley performs better on a stock engine than the TF Street Heat.

My convertible with exact parts except 3.55 gears and a Holley went 11.58 in the 1000ft (approx 13.5 on the 1/4).. I think I will see duplicate results with this setup because of the lower gears (4.30). I don't expect to go any slower for sure.

 

[mackey]

Hmm, my TFS kit with my full option car with street tires went 12.8. I just got drag radials so I can finally hook. I still haven't gotten the car tuned yet either. So there is a ton of potential left in it.

 

[Black95GTS]

A friend and I just did this install, same problems with the fuel line and pcv vaccum hose. Other than that, we had to get the bolts for the adapter to upper, and get a plug for the extra hole on the upper...

The Holley I had on my old 94 convertible took the same amount of time.. I think it included intake gaskets though which the TF does not.

Personally, I think the Holley performs better on a stock engine than the TF Street Heat.

My convertible with exact parts except 3.55 gears and a Holley went 11.58 in the 1000ft (approx 13.5 on the 1/4).. I think I will see duplicate results with this setup because of the lower gears (4.30). I don't expect to go any slower for sure.

I looked into a holley intake when I was doing research. Basically what I came up with was that you need some high flow heads and a healthier cam to run that piece as its too much for stock h/c. The TFS unit seemed much better suited for a stock replacement. I also looked into the Eddie Performer, but I didn't get it for a couple reasons, everyone has it, a lot of people break the upper putting it back on due to a flaw in the design, and it didn't come in a cool black finish.

One thing I REALLY have noticed is that they weren't kidding when they said it revs to 5500 on the box. If you plan on revving this intake any higher, then you better port it out because it pulls rock solid up to 5500 then immediately takes a dump. Granted this would be better with other aftermarket internals, but in my case the cars falls flat on its face after 5500ish. I've been shifting around 5200 when really getting on it.

Basically my plans are to get an 80mmMAF, 75mm TB, and 30 pound injectors, a nice wet kit, then spray it well into the 12s. After that gets too slow or I pop a hypeurcrap piston, then I'll think about h/c, (TFSTW and Ed C), but that will probably be after next season... 1 step at a time!

Oh and maybe I'll finally ditch these damn waffles.

Hmm, my TFS kit with my full option car with street tires went 12.8. I just got drag radials so I can finally hook. I still haven't gotten the car tuned yet either. So there is a ton of potential left in it.

I couldn't agree more. I'm psyched about the trickflow stuff. It seems like its an untapped resource. I'd go as far to say that a lot of people toss the top end kit on and don't tune it because it already works fairly well together, like yourself. Tune her up and you'll be right in there with those afr / eddie / ed c boys for much less loot!

adam