trouble starting when cold

[Copperstang87]

help plz, stang wont turn over when its cold out.

Hey y'all, my signature explains my stang. I've had this probem ever since ive had the car(over a yr) when its cool outside say +5 degrees celcius or 40 degrees fareheit my car will not start by turning the key(all i hear is my stereo turn on and my fuel pump and everything else works such as lights and power windows), but the engine won't even turn over. But when I turn the key and pop the hood I can start it from the solinoid no problem. I've changed the ignition switch located on the steering wheel column and ive also changed the cylinder that the key goes into and no difference whatsoever.
I need some help plz.
Thanks.

ps: the car always starts when its warm outside just early in the mornin b4 I go to work even in sept i hafta do the solinoid thing(really annoying)

 

[jrichker]

Here's a checklist:

Check battery, terminal connections, ground, starter relay switch (also known as solenoid) and starter in that order.

A voltmeter is handy if you are familiar with how to use it to find bad connections. Measure the voltage drop across a connection: more than .5 volts across a connection indicates a problem. See http://www.fluke.com/application_notes/automotive/circuit.asp?AGID=1&SID=103 for help

1.) Will the car start if it is jumped? Then clean battery terminals and check battery.

2.) Check the battery to engine block ground, and the ground behind the engine to the firewall.

3.) Then pull the small push on connector (red wire) off the starter relay (Looks like it is stuck on a screw) and jump it to the terminal that is connected to the battery. If it starts, the relay is good and your problem is in the rest of the circuit.

4.) Remember to check the ignition switch, neutral safety switch on auto trans and the clutch safety switch on manual trans cars. If they are good, then the relay is bad. See http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/gif/large/0900823d80195963.gif for 88-90 year cars .OR see http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/gif/large/0900823d80195964.gif for 91-93 year cars.

5.) Jump the big terminals on the starter relay next to the battery with a screwdriver - watch out for the sparks! If the engine cranks, the starter and power wiring is good. The starter relay is also known as a starter solenoid.

6.) The starter may be hung, loosen up the bolts that hold it on, and give it a good whack with a big hammer. Tighten up the bolts and try again.

7.) If that doesn't work, use a jumper cable from the positive lead on the battery direct to the starter post where the big wire from the relay connects. If it cranks then, it is the power wire from the relay gone bad. This will be hard to do, since there isn't much room to do it.

8.) Pull the starter and take it to Autozone or Pep Boys and have them test it. Starter fails test, then replace it. If you got this far, the starter is probably bad.

 

[Copperstang87]

ok well the battery is new, new starter solinoid, new battery cables(positive and negative) new ignition switch, new ignition cylinder(where the key goes into) and a new used engine was installed professionally in my car 4-5 months ago and ive had the same problem with the old engine and new engine in, no difference. If its cold out and I try to bump start the car that wont work because when I turn the key theres nothing there the engine isn't even turning over- no noise. But when its warm out or the cars been running for a while it has no problem whatsoever starting. So i'm thinkin its my starter since my connections must be good especially after that new engine was installed, anymore ideas?

 

[HISSIN50]

to hit the highpoints of JR's post:
next time it wont start: put a test light on the slide-on connector on the solenoid. ground the other lead. see if the light illuminates in the crank position. if not, see JR's #3. also check the interlock devices, wiring, etc from the ignition to the slide on wire.

if you have 12 volts to the slide on terminal but no start: perform #3. the result should be the same. you know that jumping the big lugs on the solenoid starts it, so i would swap a new solenoid in.

since you say jumping the solenoid starts it every time, i would not think a starter is bad - it is the electrics to it. solenoid or interlock device most likely.

good luck.