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san~man said:
I don't believe I've ever read of that happening personally. But, I've had mine on for about 4 years with zero problems.
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What kind do u have, Im thinking of adding the steeda ones myself. Does your AC work pretty good in the hotness? Who did the install?
 
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i have the March Piggybacks and IMO i didnt even get a placebo effect for the effort they take to do. not to mention the larger water pump pulley makes the lower alternator bolts in-accessable unless you take it off.
 

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My buddys 4v is running like junk. Lets just say that hes got the bolt ons which include a set underdrive pulleys, yes he abuses his car and yes the problems is likely due to the undrives being on the car for some time. Its got 130000 miles on it. Its a 4v issue and not a 2v issue FTW period
 

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I wouldnt recommend them to the 4v guys, its not worth the 5-10 horses you get. Especially not for 200 bucks or so.
 

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Underdrive pullies won't cause any problems if they are installed correctly. I think they're worth the money for sure. $200 for 7-9WHP is DAMN good. Compare that to plenum/tb combo's ($300-400) for 9whp MAX. Get the non piggy back pullies like Steeda, and you can't go wrong. They won't ***** up your oil pump, or your crank.
 

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Like it has been stated and I have provided concrete proof in another thread, UDP's have caused atleast 9 engine faulires and damaged 1 in a DOHC. 4v guys stay away from them.
 

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IS this damaging becuase of over torquing the bolt then? In my shop manual it says to use a impact gun?

And I thought you were suppose to run at MAX AC for the best temp and efficiency? Am I backwards?
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never, always use a damper install tool
 

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Underdrive pullies won't cause any problems if they are installed correctly. I think they're worth the money for sure. $200 for 7-9WHP is DAMN good. Compare that to plenum/tb combo's ($300-400) for 9whp MAX. Get the non piggy back pullies like Steeda, and you can't go wrong. They won't ***** up your oil pump, or your crank.
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Just to make this clear, regardless of if they are installed correctly, if your engine sees high rpm like 7k they should be avoided. Even the non piggy back style. For most of us 2v guys this is not a problem.
 

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An impact on a crank bolt? How do you torque that? Just a question.

My experience with the piggyback type isn't good. I went thru 2 alternators and 2 batteries in 3 years. I've had them off for 2 years now and have had zero issues with the alt and batt now. Just my experience...

If I did put them on again I'd go with Steeda's or similar that replace the crank pulley instead of piggybacing the stocker.
 

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On my 01 I developed a crank seal leak. The dealer said wouldnt cover it because of the pullies. I dont know for sure if it was related or not.
 

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Self install two years ago w/ no problems since...
 

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jstreet0204 said:
Just to make this clear, regardless of if they are installed correctly, if your engine sees high rpm like 7k they should be avoided. Even the non piggy back style. For most of us 2v guys this is not a problem.
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Yes, I was referring to 2v's.
 
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fwiw, I installed Steeda pullies over 3 years ago and have not had any issues with them. I think most problems are due to improper installation. Piggyback type pullies should be avoided, and 4v guys probably should skip pullies altogether.
 

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SilverBullet00 said:
And I thought you were suppose to run at MAX AC for the best temp and efficiency? Am I backwards?
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You beat me to it. No. You are correct. Max AC is what you should run. I think people think the MAX means that it is maxing the AC out and it's running at its maximum potential. But it really means that the AC is running at Maximum Efficiency....
 

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You beat me to it. No. You are correct. Max AC is what you should run. I think people think the MAX means that it is maxing the AC out and it's running at its maximum potential. But it really means that the AC is running at Maximum Efficiency....
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I'm pretty sure that on Max you close off the outside input of air which allows the cabin to cool better/quicker. On the normal setting the outside damper is open allowing outside air to mix with conditioned air. On most foriegn cars you have a open or closed selector for the outside air. Either way the AC runs cooler on max since there is no warm outside air to increase the temps.
 

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your supposed to use max a/c setting when it's over 80 degrees or very high humidity

max a/c is when the outsidew air inlet is closed off so the interior air is recirculated. since this air is cooler it's easier for the a/c system to keep it cold on a hot day
 
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COramprat said:
An impact on a crank bolt? How do you torque that? Just a question.
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In my repair manual it says to put the car in fifth gear and impact the bolt back on. I have the crank puller, how do you use that to re-install?
 
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