Vortech With Numbers!

final5-0 · Apr 28, 2006

HGFireHazard said:
We'll have to get Grady over here and see what he thinks.

What I think and a $5 spot won't buy ya a cup of coffee

I'm so glad you posted up your pull as Ben and I have been going back and forth in various threads about if we had to do it all over again ... we might take your chosen path the second time around

I got lots of stuff going on this weekend but, I'm gonna be looking at this and I will contribute some stuff to the thread from time to time.

I have not spent enough time with blown combos like yours to have a good idea about what is what ... but ... this will help me with my quest

a/f ratio looks good

My first gut feeling is ... it looks pretty good with what you got and speaking about what you got

So ........... These are the COMPLETE mods

1995 Black on Black GT
Vortech S-Trim with 80mm PMAS
MAC 1 5/8" Ceramic LT's, Custom H, 2.5" Stainless tips
255 in tank and in line, FR 42#
t-5 trans

Please be looking for a PM from me shortly

Grady

4Jenna · Apr 28, 2006

Those #s are great
Mine made 333/377 on 8psi, Edle int, and full exh back in the day

Great #s

Black95GTS · Apr 28, 2006

gmkillr said:
No offense but your #'s are pretty low for a stick car. Id think you'd easily see 340-350 to the wheels.

No offense, but if that was all it took for 350rw, then you would see a lot more Vortech kits being slapped on. I think these numbers are pretty damn fantastic.

Comparing a Cobra to a GT is apples to oranges.

In other news, its pretty hard to ignore all these successful blower installs. Your tuner looks like he did a good job there. Now take her down the strip!

Adam

HGFireHazard · Apr 28, 2006

Thanks for the replies guys. Grady, here are those charts for you. It probably will be 2 more years before I get back into the motor for more performance. Next year comes paint and suspension work, then the following year is an H/C/I swap. This is all tentative, however, and ya never know what I may decide to do with the money

Grady I know the first page is a little blurry here but the one you should have coming in your e-mail should be clean enough to read.

BlueOvalStangGT · Apr 28, 2006

What was the weather like/altitude? I still think it is a little low. I made 367 hp on a mustang dyno with similar mods but a little dangerous on the a/f side. I ended up leaving the shop with 338/410 on a mustang dyno. The only mods I had that you dont is a cobra intake and a 75mm MAF. I also had the stock pulleys with a power pipe and made 13psi no problem. On ebay/corral they sell these $20 belt tensioners that work wonders. I didnt gain much peak boost but it felt like it built boost faster and steadier.

final5-0 · Apr 28, 2006

HGFireHazard said:
Thanks for the replies guys. Grady, here are those charts for you. It probably will be 2 more years before I get back into the motor for more performance. Next year comes paint and suspension work, then the following year is an H/C/I swap. This is all tentative, however, and ya never know what I may decide to do with the money

Grady I know the first page is a little blurry here but the one you should have coming in your e-mail should be clean enough to read.

Thank you Mr. D

You da Man

Grady

final5-0 · Apr 28, 2006

BlueOvalStangGT said:
What was the weather like/altitude? I still think it is a little low. I made 367 hp on a mustang dyno with similar mods but a little dangerous on the a/f side. I ended up leaving the shop with 338/410 on a mustang dyno. The only mods I had that you dont is a cobra intake and a 75mm MAF. I also had the stock pulleys with a power pipe and made 13psi no problem. On ebay/corral they sell these $20 belt tensioners that work wonders. I didnt gain much peak boost but it felt like it built boost faster and steadier.

Keven

If you will, please verify if my thoughts are in line here as I don't have a lotta background in blown stuff.

I have seen it said a rule of thumb for boost is .......

10rwhp for every 1 additional pound of boost.

If you were at 13
and
Donavan is at 10

Is this a 30rwhp difference in boost alone

Grady

final5-0 · Apr 28, 2006

Would this be a S or SQ trim

Grady

95snoozer · Apr 28, 2006

Looks like you are floating valves after 5600

keep your revs down.

bimmertech · Apr 28, 2006

gt40 heads, 1.7rr, tom moss lower, cobra upper, and a big ass tensioner---you'll be screamin for cheap.

figure about $800(includes gaskets and such) more than what you have in it right now and you will deff see over 400lb-ft and maybe 400hp.

just thinking out loud.

final5-0 · Apr 28, 2006

Well Donavan

I'd say you smoked me

I made a comparo thread which had a more relevant title using the same chart btw

http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=633022

Grady

yellow1995Cobra · Apr 28, 2006

From what ive seen over the years on these forums, your numbers look great. You should be happy!

But i gotta know... How come you didnt grab a 270 dollar typhoon intake off ebay before getting it dyno tuned?

gmkillr · Apr 28, 2006

BlueOvalStangGT said:
On ebay/corral they sell these $20 belt tensioners that work wonders. I didnt gain much peak boost but it felt like it built boost faster and steadier.

Yes, here's a thread on them really cheap, check it out. If anybody's interested pm me or email me. rnshuble@yahoo.com
http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=760397

Im sorry, I wanst trying to ruffle anybody's feathers, I just remember seeing over the years a few very similar combo's in the 330-350rwhp range, which im sure he'd be in w/ a little more boost. 10rwhp for every 1lb. of boost is a pretty good rule of thumb so w/ 13lbs. you should see close to a 30rwhp increase. You just need to tighten that belt down more! Good luck and go get some track #'s for us.

HGFireHazard · Apr 29, 2006

Grady, the unit is an S-trim. My friends say it sound like a jet airplane about to crash when I'm heavy on the pedal. I know everyone wants to see this thing fly, but I've only had this car for 1 year. I have a car payment, insurance (for 2 cars), gas (once again for 2 cars), college tuition to pay for and I'm only 20 years old. I also work food service and still have a budget of nearly $10,000 going into car upgrades alone this year. Give me time guys and I'll make all of ya proud, of that I promise

final5-0 · Apr 29, 2006

HGFireHazard said:
Grady, the unit is an S-trim. My friends say it sound like a jet airplane about to crash when I'm heavy on the pedal. I know everyone wants to see this thing fly, but I've only had this car for 1 year. I have a car payment, insurance (for 2 cars), gas (once again for 2 cars), college tuition to pay for and I'm only 20 years old. I also work food service and still have a budget of nearly $10,000 going into car upgrades alone this year. Give me time guys and I'll make all of ya proud, of that I promise

To my way of thinking ..................
you've put together a combo thats gonna be great fun
to drive arown town

Grady

tmoss · Apr 29, 2006

Nice results! Porting the stock lower would add to those numbers significantly and be pretty cheap $/hp (especially if you could do it yourself!), but if your satisfied with it as-is, just drive it like that until you do the h/c/i.

BlueOvalStangGT · Apr 29, 2006

HGFireHazard said:
Grady, the unit is an S-trim. My friends say it sound like a jet airplane about to crash when I'm heavy on the pedal. I know everyone wants to see this thing fly, but I've only had this car for 1 year. I have a car payment, insurance (for 2 cars), gas (once again for 2 cars), college tuition to pay for and I'm only 20 years old. I also work food service and still have a budget of nearly $10,000 going into car upgrades alone this year. Give me time guys and I'll make all of ya proud, of that I promise

Im not trying to put you or your car down, I just think it has a little more in it as it is. Im also in the same boat as you, 19 with college tuition. Is your blower the V1? Ive only driven my car like 4 times since I took the S-Trim off, and I already miss that whine at idle.

HGFireHazard · Apr 29, 2006

BlueOvalStangGT said:
Im not trying to put you or your car down, I just think it has a little more in it as it is. Im also in the same boat as you, 19 with college tuition. Is your blower the V1? Ive only driven my car like 4 times since I took the S-Trim off, and I already miss that whine at idle.

Ah dude don't even worry about it. As long as you don't tell me straight up that it's a piece a crap and then drive away from me in a rusted out 1987 Buick Century you're fine. My blower is indeed the V1, and the sound is a total turn on, hah.

Joe 5.0 · May 2, 2006

Thats awesome HG, thats where i'm hoping to be. I also am stock HCI and going to be putting on a s-trim with powerpipe and LT's.

Plus the dyno is only a tuning device, 1/4 numbers tell the real story.

HG how hard was the install of the blower, in general? I found a new shop willing to install the lt's & blower for $1100. I think its pretty fair seeing as how the stock exhaust is HELLA rusted on, so i'll need to buy a $400 compressor just to do the lt's. I def am considering PHP to tune it, seeing as how they got a nice safe tune for yours.

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