What cam for my setup?

astronut1885 · Jan 16, 2004

Right, but not all of the cams say "hydraulic roller", some just say "hydraulic", and many of those come with flat tappet lifters. As of now, the TF cam is one that'll work for me, is cheap, and has a good profile, so I think I might go with that, especially since a few people reccomended it.

Jo_885o · Jan 16, 2004

It means the same thing. But good choice on cam. I maybe be bias b/c i'm getting the same cam. Good idle, good street drivability. And screams above 3000 from what i heard. good luck.

Jo_885o · Jan 16, 2004

O yea i more thing i see that u have a 87 which is speed density. did u convert to mass air? If not u cant run this cam.

astronut1885 · Jan 16, 2004

Yeah, I am converting, hopefully to a 24# injector setup, but either way I am converting. It's gonna happen before the build up (H/C/I)

astronut1885 · Jan 16, 2004

This cam will work with heads other than Trick Flow TWs, right? I have GT40P heads with larger than stock exhaust valves (1.54)

cmclean · Jan 16, 2004

Yes, it will work. I had it on my stock shortblock and heads. It's a great cam.

astronut1885 · Jan 16, 2004

great. looks like I found my cam. THANKS GUYS!!!

astronut1885 · Jan 16, 2004

Will the TF stage 1 cam work with the stock valve springs on a GT40P head? I need to know if I can do this without new springs. Thanks

redterror302 · Jan 16, 2004

I know you seem to be "set" on what cam you want to get, but don't jump into it too quickly. I started out the same way you are, sure that I wanted either a b or e cam. Then after hearing people say that they are outdated, I moved over to the steeda 18. People complained about that one too, telling me that it will kill a lot of my low end torque. So then I decided I wanted to go with either the tfs 1 or crane 2031. Michael Yount helped me a lot with my education in cams.

Instead of having my mind set then, I decided to do some research on cams. I called a bunch of companies and decided to go with Comp Cams. They really knew what they were talking about, and knew exactly what I wanted with my car after I explained it to them. Two different gentlemen told me to go with the xe270hr. I am not saying that the tfs won't work for you, I just want to make sure that you don't make a wrong decision and become dissapointed.

I HIGHLY suggest that you call the different companies to talk to their tech staff. They are all really helpful, and you can tell about what you should get. If they know what they are talking about, the different companies should probably give you similar specs for what you want. If that happens to be close to the tfs 1 then perhaps I would get that. If their answers are a lot different from the tfs then you will probably be dissapointed when you install it.

Chris

p.s. Sorry, but I have no idea what the gt40p valves springs are rated at.

astronut1885 · Jan 16, 2004

Sounds like a good idea. I'll look into it. Any info on my springs would be helpful.

Nottoofast50 · Jan 17, 2004

I'm curious about whether it will work with the stock springs myself... I was planning on maybe buying the ones that trickflow recomended with the cam for it but would like to stay with the stock ones cuz it would be cheaper.... Astronut: I'm running almost the exhaust same setup as you except with longtubes and an aod. Let me know how it works out for ya once you get it up and running.

astronut1885 · Jan 18, 2004

any idea on the springs? if anyone knows, please post it up. I need to know stock GT40P spring lift.

ricky50 · Jan 18, 2004

I had the f cam, don't get it you'll be sorry!!!

astronut1885 · Jan 19, 2004

Talked to my mechanic today for a while about getting a cam. I guess now I am going to go with an E303 cam. Over all it will fit my needs better, and it is emissions legal, so I can still strap my cats back on and pass the sniffer. Thanks for everything guys!

86Cobra · Jan 20, 2004

astronut1885 said:
Talked to my mechanic today for a while about getting a cam. I guess now I am going to go with an E303 cam. Over all it will fit my needs better, and it is emissions legal, so I can still strap my cats back on and pass the sniffer. Thanks for everything guys!

Bad advice IMO. The E-cam has a CARB number to make it emissions legal. That doesn't mean anything. Emissions testers don't know or care what cam you have in your motor.

Any of the cams mentioned in this thread will also pass emissions easily. And they'll make more power and drive better than the E.

A couple of years ago I passed the sniffer EASY with a TFS Stage 2 cam. Last year I also passed with my current FTI cam which is MUCH larger than anything you're looking at.

maverick0716 · Jan 20, 2004

astronut1885 said:
Talked to my mechanic today for a while about getting a cam. I guess now I am going to go with an E303 cam. Over all it will fit my needs better, and it is emissions legal, so I can still strap my cats back on and pass the sniffer. Thanks for everything guys!

The E-cam has almost the exact same specs of the TFS 1 cam. The TFS cam has a little LESS duration which could make it better than the E-cam for emissions. The intake is .499 lift instead of .498 for the E-cam and the exhaust is .510 instead of .498 for the E.

93cobra12 · Jan 20, 2004

astronut1885 said:
Hey guys. I am probably going to add a camshaft into the mix for my build up, so I want to know which to go with. I am looking for a lower end powerband, preferably from 2000-5500rpm, and around 300 RWHP. I don't want to go to 6k rpm, as I almost never see that kind of RPM on the street. The car is a daily driver, so streetability is a major concern, and I want the idle to be fairly smooth, with a minor lope to it. My setup will be:

Stock 302 block
GT40P heads w/ 1.54" exhaust valves (stock=1.46)
Explorer (GT40) upper and lower intake w/1" phenolic spacer
1.6 ratio roller rockers
65mm TB + spacer
24# injectors and MAF conversion calibrated for 24# inj.
255 LPH fuel pump
FRPP 1 5/8" shorty headers
MAC Pro Chamber
Flowmaster 40 series mufflers
MAC cold air intake
MAC U/D pullies

I was leaning toward the E303 Ford Racing cam, and my mechanic reccomended the F303 cam. Others have said I could do better. Please give me some info on cams so I can look into my options. Thanks guys.

Check this out.. I use the 15512, with the 1.7, but i got a 331.. its a very nice camshaft.. it redlines at 6500 i used to shift at 56-58k..

302 Hydraulic Roller Camshafts
Crower has been a leader in camshaft technology for over 45 years. We have developed a wide variety of hydraulic roller profiles available for the 5.0L Mustang. Whether it's cruising, street/strip, full drag race or autocross, Crower has a cam profile for you. Custom grinds are also available.

Part # Description LC Adv Duration Duration @ 050 Gross Lift w/1.6 RPM Range Kit #
Stock O.E.M. factory specs (89-92 Mustang) 115 272 / 272 211 / 211 .437 / .437 1000 to 5000 redline
15510 Mostly stock, good bottom end torque 114 275 / 275 212 / 212 .531 / .531 1500 to 6000 redline 84560
15511 Excellent 5 speed cam, shifts @ 5800 114 278 / 282 218 / 224 .468 / .486 1800 to 6500 redline 84562
15512 Most popular grind, blows Chevys off 112 282 / 286 222 / 228 .496 / .512 2100 to 7000 redline 84562
15513 Big cid cam (320-347) w/higher comp. 112 288 / 298 228 / 234 .512 / .531 1800 to 6500 redline 84562
15514 Well prepared engine, full race 302 110 298 / 304 234 / 240 .534 / .545 2700 to 8000 redline Call
15515 1/4 mile special w/top end insanity 110 300 / 310 236 / 242 .524 / .529 3000 to 8500 redline Call

robystang · Mar 13, 2004

crane also has a cam that is just like the e cam but somehow its supposed to outperform it. on the crane website its model # is 444231, basically its their powermax 2040 cam duration is 282/282and lift is 498/498 sells at mustangs unlimited for $220

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