That was this craptop......is showed as unposted so I nailed the post key a few more times....oops
I think you're getting Alzheimer's in your old age too. You replied to my post 4-times.
I work remotely and my hours changed recently to 3a-1pand why are you up so early!!
I've got them on my car....they seem peachy. From a traction standpoint, it's tough to say because my 331 would probably obliterate any of them, but lateral grip seems great. Ride compliance is fine. They seem to be wearing well. No complaints.Not to hijack the thread, but I'm looking at replacement tires as well. Presently the car has Nexen 3000 245/45/17 on all four feet . These tires get great reviews and are less than $100 each. You guys have any thoughts?
I've got them on my car....they seem peachy. From a traction standpoint, it's tough to say because my 331 would probably obliterate any of them, but lateral grip seems great. Ride compliance is fine. They seem to be wearing well. No complaints.
I've been really interested in tires lately, because I just did a lot of research before settling on some Bridgestone RE11s for my '97 corvette. So, after hearing your recommendation, I decided to look up the Nexus tires. Unfortunately, it didn't go so well for them.
Now, I don't mean to be a **** and shoot you down, but they didn't do too well in the only comparison test I could find. I gotcha, on the fact that it's a budget tire, though.
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2012-Autobild-50-Tyre-Braking-Test.htm
Now, here're two tires I would recommend as an alternative at the same price: Sumitomo HTR Z III ($93/tire), and the Hankook Ventus Evo K110 ($106/tire)
While doing my research for the vette, there were a lot of people recommending these two tires. The tire rack test showing that the cheaper HTR ZIIIs are actually quicker can be found here. While a general comparison of all max performance tires that tire rack tested, which shows the K110s are rated better by customers can be found here.
For my performance on a budget, I'd be throwing on a set of Sumitomos.
COMPARISON:
The Sumitomo HTRZIII shown below has little to know siping, has very straight thread, but very solid tread with no evacuation void. so looking at this tire tells me a couple things.
First, the compound is very shiny (oil, bad for wet/snow)
no real siping (bad for snow)
no evacuation void (water will get trapped under the tire and cause hydroplaning.... bad in wet)
solid tread bands (should have decent stability in cornering)
Originally Posted by AdderMk2 View attachment 125585
Sumitomo street tires are well known for their high oil content in the rubber of their tires, this is why mine wore out in about 8k miles. They are a cheap tire for a reason. The rubber compound they use is substantially sub par, which is why the HTR-Z had a 100 for trearwear. Its not because its a sticky soft compound, its because its a crap compound that doesn't have the ability to last like a good quality tire, like a BFG, Toyo, Goodyear, will have.
Per Tire Rack;
"The HTR Z III (High Technology Radials-3rd generation) is Sumitomo's Max Performance Summer tire developed for sports cars, sporty coupes and high performance sedans. It is designed to showcase Sumitomo's technical resources by providing high-speed handling stability along with traction on dry and wet roads. Like all summer tires, it is not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice."
I got the sumi's myself and I feel they are a great street tire. Very grippy in a straight line or in the corners. I got them because they were a little cheaper than the conti dws's I usually get for my sport cars.Appreciate the feedback, but I read the following about those Simitomos and am not impressed. The UTOG is only a 300 and the dry and wet traction only a single A. Compare that with the Nexen 3000 with a UTOG of 340 and a AA- A rating. Plus from what I've read, Nexen is a subsidiary of Michelin and if you look at their tread patterns, they are very similar. Almost every vendor- Tire Rack, Tire buyer, etc. rate the Nexen very highly.
Some reviews of the Sumitomos.
http://mustangforums.com/forum/s197-handling-section/577960-sumitomo-htrziii-review-2.html
Plus there is this
http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/2005-2010/62863-sumitomo-htr-z-iii.html
Again, not trying to start a ****ing match, but I guess that's why Baskin Robbins makes 31 flavors. I've had the Nexens on the car for a year and not a complaint. Probably have another 5-10K miles left on them before new ones are needed.
I'm not entirely sure how those ratings are given, but I've seen pretty wide variance in tires with the same or similar ratings. Huge variance, actually. A lot of people say that the manufacturer has a lot of leeway in their tire ratings. I don't know if that's true. Regardless 300 vs. 340 is not enough to draw a real-world longevity conclusion from, IMO. AA- vs. A in the dry doesn't seem like a strong argument in the face of an actual test showing how they perform in comparison with other tires.Appreciate the feedback, but I read the following about those Simitomos and am not impressed. The UTOG is only a 300 and the dry and wet traction only a single A. Compare that with the Nexen 3000 with a UTOG of 340 and a AA- A rating.
Do you have any other direct comparisons? I prefer comparisons to the subjective reviews of individuals. I see so many people who "love" their tires, only to find out that those tires do not perform very well when compared to others.Plus from what I've read, Nexen is a subsidiary of Michelin and if you look at their tread patterns, they are very similar. Almost every vendor- Tire Rack, Tire buyer, etc. rate the Nexen very highly.
Keep in mind the context of this discussion. We are talking "Ultra High Performance Directional Summer" in Nexen's own words. This does not imply bad wet handling, but does imply a focus on dry traction. It is safe to say that summer max performance tires are not going to do well in snow, and that they may give up some wet handling. Though that's not always true. The treads on the nexens look designed for excellent wet performance.Some reviews of the Sumitomos.
http://mustangforums.com/forum/s197-handling-section/577960-sumitomo-htrziii-review-2.html
Again, not trying to start a ****ing match, but I guess that's why Baskin Robbins makes 31 flavors. I've had the Nexens on the car for a year and not a complaint. Probably have another 5-10K miles left on them before new ones are needed.
I like the
Hankook Ventus V12 evo K110 as a great budget friendly tire
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