Ok folks, calm your "horses"...LOL
Do our horses seem excited?
LIL bit...LOL Just messing with ya guys.
Ok, figure I would give you guys something to think about. I have been on the LS1 bandwagon for awhile( dont bash me to much,LOL) but back in the saddle once again. Fixing to buy me some heads and a cam. Just a street car, has ac,70mm TB,edelbrock intake,stock injectors,pullies, 1 5/8 bbk shorties.bbk x-pipe, supper 44's cat back with 2 1/2 tails pipes, 373's, tko trans.....
Whats a good set of heads and cam to get? Only want ing to do this one time. . . THANKS for the opinions...
Am I missing something here...what do you mean might? Stock LS1's FBodies/Vettes were ever only mid/low-13-second cars. At least any of the ones I ever ran at the track were. You’d maybe squeeze a high-12-second run out of a factory freak, if all the stars were lined up correctly, but in any event, a 400hp Fox Body would murder a stock LS1 FBody/Vette and run every bit as hard as an LS2 equipped Vette or GTO on it’s worst day? Hell, my last Cougar killed stock LS1 everything’s and it only made 410hp and weighed over 4,100lbs with driver. Even the quickest stock LS2 equipped Vette's were ever only mid-12-second cars. A 400hp Mustang will easily run those kind of times.BTW i have tons of LS experience f body and corvette... a NA 400 hp stang MIGHT, and i mean MIGHT keep up with a basically stock Ls1/2...
i would deff go with the trick flow kit.....
BTW i have tons of LS experience f body and corvette... a NA 400 hp stang MIGHT, and i mean MIGHT keep up with a basically stock Ls1/2... i have a couple bolt ons for the stang but my camaro is my real money pit...
BUT that new boss 302 looks like it means business....
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Am I missing something here...what do you mean might? Stock LS1's FBodies/Vettes were ever only mid/low-13-second cars. At least any of the ones I ever ran at the track were. You’d maybe squeeze a high-12-second run out of a factory freak, if all the stars were lined up correctly, but in any event, a 400hp Fox Body would murder a stock LS1 FBody/Vette and run every bit as hard as an LS2 equipped Vette or GTO on it’s worst day? Hell, my last Cougar killed stock LS1 everything’s and it only made 410hp and weighed over 4,100lbs with driver. Even the quickest stock LS2 equipped Vette's were ever only mid-12-second cars. A 400hp Mustang will easily run those kind of times.
Horsepower to weight, is still horsepower to weight, no matter what kind of hamster is spinning the wheel. GM, Ford, Dodge be damned. A 3,000lb Fox Body with 400hp on tap is a deep 11-second car all things being equal and more than a match for stock LS1/LS2 factory cars.
i would deff go with the trick flow kit.....
BTW i have tons of LS experience f body and corvette... a NA 400 hp stang MIGHT, and i mean MIGHT keep up with a basically stock Ls1/2... i have a couple bolt ons for the stang but my camaro is my real money pit...
BUT that new boss 302 looks like it means business....
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Brian, Nik, and Chris all in agreement in the same thread? This is outrageous!
Brian, Nik, and Chris all in agreement in the same thread? This is outrageous! Can I change my mind? I think 400hp Mustangs are slow!
Damn I was enjoying this nice weather, now it's going to snow in August....
A few missed that he already picked up Holley Heads and B-Cam. Which Holley Heads did you get? At this point I would put a Vortech on it. I put a blower on everything though.
The 190's or 194's, which ever come in them, they are not 202's.... oh, and its getting a Vortech for sure!! Just not right yetA few missed that he already picked up Holley Heads and B-Cam. Which Holley Heads did you get? At this point I would put a Vortech on it. I put a blower on everything though.
My H/C/I 302 ran an 11.96@112.9 mph. It made 311rwhp on the dyno and after a CAI was added, maybe a little clower to 320 rhwp, or about 376 crank hp. In my experience, stock LS1s were no contest.... For them it was embarrassing. Even with 4.10s, my stang still pulled hard from a roll. I think the idea that a 400hp stang "MIGHT" keep up is an underestimation of the stang. Hell, the heavy ass 2011s blow the doors off of the LS1s with 412. The fox is hundreds of lbs lighter.
Horsepower to weight, is still horsepower to weight, no matter what kind of hamster is spinning the wheel. GM, Ford, Dodge be damned. A 3,000lb Fox Body with 400hp on tap is a deep 11-second car all things being equal and more than a match for stock LS1/LS2 factory cars.
Well, why didn't you say so?said might in the first place because i own both... my stang isnt near 400hp but my ls1 99z28 with stock ls6 heads/intake/tb and street suspension/tires eats up 400hp STREET stangs all day... now if you put track slicks/weight reduction on that same 400hp stang of course youll beat a stock ls1/2...
Errrrrr....yeah, but it's still......100 more horsepower!?! And in a car that weighs 200-300lbs less to boot. I'm not sure what pudding you're eating, but in the real world, the odds don't look good for the F-Body.i know i sound like kind of a biased but the proof is in the pudding and number charts.... 400 hp stangs are great but thats not even 100 more hp than a stock f body ls1...
Wait...so because you beat your buddies '93 Cobra, that makes all 400hp Mustangs slow? There are several dozen members in this particular forum that would love to be your Huckleberry on that one.im just saying, my friends 93 cobra w a v2 blower and bolt ons makes almost 410hp to the ground and when my 99z28 was stock id still have him by half a car length. And with nitto nt050r tires hed have me out of the hole till i hit second then still my stock Z would catch him around 60mph.... now i have almost 500 FWHP (stock tune zo6 maf) in the Z and and full BMR suspension w/ vett rims and i have passed up every 03-04 cobra i see on highway 101... and only one shelby gt500.. (i dont think he knew what he was doin though) still for under 10k total in my Z including the price of the car... im smoking cars double and even triple my price tag..... the only stang i have been smoked by is a 90fox w/ a 347 stroker w/ v2 blower and lots of other chassis mods, build AOD, far far from stock.....
very true... but if youd put hoosier 8inch slicks on a stock f body 98-02, it will run deep 11's....
So what's your point? The 5.0L OHV you're comparing the LSX engine to was produced back in 1968. What does it matter how old the engine is?btw the ls1 is a motor produced since like 1997... the new 5.0 w/412hp is a brand new engine.... and just to upgrade to the boss 302 package costs more than what i bought my camaro for.. lol
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