what mass air?

mkhalil83 · Feb 18, 2009

Well i just got my car from the dyno and and it was running lean around 5000 rpm at about 11lbs of boost the shop said i needed to upgrade to 60lbs injectors from the 42s i have now. What do I do about a mass airflow sensor? I have a c and l on it now but c and l doesnt make a calibration tube for 60lbs injectors or at least I have never seen it so what do I need to do? 93 mustang 331 stroker with a v-7 y- trim on it

Wallzy · Feb 18, 2009

Pro-M makes an incredible product, they should be able to help you out.
Walz

bubba-dough · Feb 18, 2009

Buy an SCT and have them calibrate it with the tune.

mkhalil83 · Feb 18, 2009

so how does it work i call the company and ask them to calibrate it to 60 lb injects

Cobra_Dusten · Feb 18, 2009

no, you buy the sct, and havve someone tune your car for your injectors, when you are making that kind of power you really need a tune. you must be making a ton of power though, we push the 42's in our lightnings to over 430RWHP out of a 5.4L with 15-16lbs

mkhalil83 · Feb 18, 2009

well i made 480 h.p at 5000 rpm the shop said i would make over 500 if i get some 60lbs injectors, I am really just trying to go the cheap way around this. Because my buddy has some 60lb injectors for me so is there any way i can just get the mass air already calibrated and then get it tuned after

mkhalil83 · Feb 18, 2009

or i hear alot of people getting there car tuned with a lighting mass air what do think about that? its cheaper than sct

Cobra_Dusten · Feb 18, 2009

we maxed out the lightning mass airs at around 400hp...
you are trying to make 500hp. let me give you some advice.
here are three words cheap, reliable, fast

you can pick 2.

pony up for an sct, they are like 250 bones.

what block is in your car? if its stock its on borrowed time at that power

mkhalil83 · Feb 18, 2009

Its a stock block and I know they arent suppose to take that much power. If i blow it up ohhh well thats the name of the game 302 blocks are a dime a dozen I dont want to fork over 2000 for a dart plus another 1000 for machine work that takes all the fun out of it. Im just wondering about the cheapest way to do this, this car is strictly a budget build but if any one has any ideas to keep it cheap im all ears. So I guessing the lighting mass air wont work.

Foxfan88 · Feb 18, 2009

a LMAF would work if the car is being tuned. but i dont think LMAF read all that high, your combo may peg the meter.

bubba-dough · Feb 18, 2009

You will definately peg a lightning maf. You could leave well enough alone or spend the cheese and get 60 lb'ers, SCT maf, & tune the car. This is who we get ours from plus he does our tuning. SpeedyDyno.com you can see the link in my sig for his tuning work.

mkhalil83 · Feb 18, 2009

well i went lean at 5000 then they cut her off they said if they would have took her higher she would have around 500 hp, crap so I have a crap load of more money to still spend

bubba-dough · Feb 18, 2009

So I take it that it was just a dyno and not a tuner. A tuner can tune the car to what your injectors can do. Meaning they can make it so that you can take the car to the rev limiter and not run lean (de-tune the car a bit).

mkhalil83 · Feb 18, 2009

well i have a timing boost retard i still have to put on it and i have a wideband o2 sensor on it mybe i can just take it to the track and play with it

Cobra_Dusten · Feb 18, 2009

that sounds like a great idea, instead of spending a few hundred to do it right, lets try to band aid the issue, split the block, trash the crank and spend a fw grand putting it back together...

mkhalil83 · Feb 18, 2009

calm down! If i see her go lean on the wide band I will let out of her. And its going to cost me more than a couple hundred to turn her, after injectors, mass air, chip and tune your looking at $1200 easy. Im sorry im not john force where i can just throw that money around I guess you didnt listen to me when I said BUDGET build.

Cobra_Dusten · Feb 18, 2009

mkhalil83 said:
calm down! If i see her go lean on the wide band I will let out of her. And its going to cost me more than a couple hundred to turn her, after injectors, mass air, chip and tune your looking at $1200 easy. Im sorry im not john force where i can just throw that money around I guess you didnt listen to me when I said BUDGET build.

i know what it costs, this isnt my first go fast rodeo. the sct is a few hundred, and you can find them used for less. you said you already have a hook up on injectors. chip and tune are 500-600 usually. so, for a grand or less you dont have to worry about watching your gauges and going lean.
you're the one who said if you cracked the block you didn't care...

mkhalil83 · Feb 18, 2009

All I am saying is if I can get out of spending $1000 and try and tune her myself. Why not Right? Come on I know you have been in my shoes before when money is tight and you just want to have so fun with the car? Isnt that what they do on the dyno is adjust to a/f ratio I will be doing the same just at the track. I use to do it with nitrous all the time and thats even more hard to predict. Do you think its a bad idea even with a wide band in my face.

ID89GT · Feb 18, 2009

If its just car to have fun with, then why going through all the trouble just to get a little more HP out of it? I would be content where you are

Mustang5L5 · Feb 18, 2009

We know what you are saying, but you are building a 500+ HP setup and asking for round-about ways to get more power.

The truth is some of the things you want to do may end up costing you more in the long run when it costs you your motor.

At the power level you are at, you should really be getting an SCT and dyno tune anyway. That's a lot of powee to be tossing around on a stock block and hot have a safe reliable tune verified by a dyno tune. Leaning out is going to cause you problems not easily cured by a lightning MAF.

MAF recalibration should be completely forgotten about. This isn't 1992 anymore. It was good when custom chips and tunes were WAAAY too expensive back in the day but now dyno tuning should be the only way to go.

I know your goal is a cheap budget build, but 500+HP and cheap don't really go hand and hand together.

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