what would you choose?

[njoliver]

(1990 vert)alright I have been talking to people and some companies and found out that coil overs are not good for street application do to noise and high maintenance. So now I am in a pickle I am now thinking of going to a torque arm set up which is alot better then a four link set-up. The thing with that is for one it is pretty pricey, and for two I have to do some welding which isn't that big of a deal but I just painted underneath and don't really want to have to redo stuff. Right now I am thinking about just getting some nice progressive coil springs some nice adj. shock, adj. rear control arms, sway bar. I am just doing the rear right now and next winter do the front of the car. so what do you guys think, I guess if I don't like upgrading the shocks and coil. I can go with torque arm set-up

 

[SScott]

Sounds like you have a good plan. I wish I could help. I had coil overs on a camaro and liked it but then again I get off on loud exhaust and solid mounts... =)

 

[Shaolin Crane]

whoever told you coil overs were bad for street use due to maintenance was lying to you, i have everything you listed, coil overs, torque arm etc and i dont have much road noise, its not an unbearable ride, and a stiff progressive spring will have the same ride quality as a coil over setup that is evenly paired

 

[njoliver]

JASON AT MAXIMUM MOTORSPORTS TOLD ME THAT. I DON'T KNNOW WHAT TO DO i JUST WANT TO DRIVE IT SOON I AM GOING CRAZY WITH THIS NICE WEATHER AND MY MUSTANG SITTING IN THE GARAGE.

 

[Shaolin Crane]

JASON AT MAXIMUM MOTORSPORTS TOLD ME THAT. I DON'T KNNOW WHAT TO DO i JUST WANT TO DRIVE IT SOON I AM GOING CRAZY WITH THIS NICE WEATHER AND MY MUSTANG SITTING IN THE GARAGE.

first off you yell at people and no one is gonna want to ****in help you, just do coil overs and you'll be fine

 

[njoliver]

i wasnt yelling i just accidently had cap locks on

 

[njoliver]

shaolin how easy,(how many hours it take you)was it to install torque arm and panhard bar?? thank you

 

[thethirdeye88]

i think what he was getting at is that coilovers arent ideal for a street driven car...so what its a little more noisy and you have to keep an eye on them, its just maintenance...go out and drive and dial them in...

 

[njoliver]

okay. so maybe I will use them the guy at maximum motorsports says it might not be sufficient for traction with a supercharged 347 stroker

 

[Shaolin Crane]

shaolin how easy,(how many hours it take you)was it to install torque arm and panhard bar?? thank you

i dont go by hours when i do my builds, i did everything at once, PHB, TA, K member etc but it shouldnt take more than 3 hours to do the panhard and around 3-4 for the torque arm providing you have a welder

 

[njoliver]

yea I got i am borrowing a lincoln 120 gas welder for subframes i dont know if it is strong enogh for the torque arms I am trying to find a tig welder to borrow.

 

[Shaolin Crane]

yea I got i am borrowing a lincoln 120 gas welder for subframes i dont know if it is strong enogh for the torque arms I am trying to find a tig welder to borrow.

you dont weld the torque arm to the car, you weld the small tabs to the subframes that the crossmember bolts to for the TA

 

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

You know how many cars come factory with coil overs? Not for street...that's funny. My '89 Festiva came stock with coil overs.

 

[Shaolin Crane]

You know how many cars come factory with coil overs? Not for street...that's funny. My '89 Festiva came stock with coil overs.

i know, i think MM says that so people wont be mad IF there is a change in ride

 

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

Everything is a trade off. You want your car to corner like it's on rails? It's gonna cost you some ride quality. The only way to get both are with air bags.

 

[Shaolin Crane]

Everything is a trade off. You want your car to corner like it's on rails? It's gonna cost you some ride quality. The only way to get both are with air bags.

i dont notice any trade off, then again my exhaust is so damn loud i cant hear any road noise

 

[njoliver]

You know how many cars come factory with coil overs? Not for street...that's funny. My '89 Festiva came stock with coil overs.

yea but I know on some race cars road-race, circuit-dirt and street, stock car and other classes that use coil-overs and shocks that need to be rebuilt every season or two. I have set-up all sorts of race cars, I don't know to much about street performance I know stock and full out race. I never set-up up a street suspension but know how to set-up basically any race car. I didnt think about him meaning maintenance like ride-height if thats the case that is no big deal I thought he was meaning you had to overhaul the coil-overs every so often. If having a little road noise and having to adjust ride height occasionally is all i have to do then I will probably get some.

 

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

I've rode in 2 coil over cars and they did have some noise in the front when going over big bumps or speed bumps...like a creeking noise but it was tolerable. Both cars turned so responsively and hugged corners that i'd consider it a trade off. You also have to consider how much harder a race car is getting driven than your street car so that could be the reason for the rebuilds....or it could also just be a performance type of thing where they rebuild them to make sure they're at peak performance. I will say though my one friend who has them wishes he didn't...he wants to get spring perch A arms and go back to the stock style setup with adjustable shocks....i'm not sure why.

 

[Shaolin Crane]

yea but I know on some race cars road-race, circuit-dirt and street, stock car and other classes that use coil-overs and shocks that need to be rebuilt every season or two. I have set-up all sorts of race cars, I don't know to much about street performance I know stock and full out race. I never set-up up a street suspension but know how to set-up basically any race car. I didnt think about him meaning maintenance like ride-height if thats the case that is no big deal I thought he was meaning you had to overhaul the coil-overs every so often. If having a little road noise and having to adjust ride height occasionally is all i have to do then I will probably get some.

Bilsteins have a lifetime warranty so it doesnt really matter to me, plus you have to change regular shocks and struts how are coil overs different

 

[njoliver]

I said shocks to, I was thinking there is a lot of load on all the coil over components compare to coil springs, I don't know. well any ways I found these nice looking coil overs from CA chassisworks, there called vari shock. they looked pretty nice no warranty though, around 900 for rear. you guys ever looked at these before