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mob

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Hello people of the classic forum, my dad is looking to buy a 428 cobra jet engine for his car, i was wondering where in the world can you buy these engines, we have been looking everywhere, the only ones we have found are on unique performance and there 30k for an aluminum 427. What the heck is up with that. But anyways where are the sites to buy these motors? weve searched google and ive searched here already, any help would be great, thanks, i would have posted in talk but i get the feeling i would have more replies here, thanks again
 
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mob said:
Hello people of the classic forum, my dad is looking to buy a 428 cobra jet engine for his car, i was wondering where in the world can you buy these engines, we have been looking everywhere, the only ones we have found are on unique performance and there 30k for an aluminum 427. What the heck is up with that. But anyways where are the sites to buy these motors? weve searched google and ive searched here already, any help would be great, thanks, i would have posted in talk but i get the feeling i would have more replies here, thanks again
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the 428 was the sohc semi hemi ya? very rare. for more common engines: www.pawinc.com www.summitracing.com www.jegs.com off the top of my head.
 

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theres 2 428 engines on ebay, are they that rare? theres also a car on ebay that has on a black coupe, would it be bad to buy one off ebay do you think? but does anyone make them? like aftermarket or something, and what other engines fit in a classic mustang? thanks for reply
 
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THX 138 said:
the 428 was the sohc semi hemi ya? very rare. for more common engines: www.pawinc.com www.summitracing.com www.jegs.com off the top of my head.
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no, the sohc was a 427, the 'cammer'...
the 427's seem to be very desirable engines and are thus reproduced (Unique, Dove, and Shelby i think do/redo them)

i don't know of anyone that produces/sells 428's outright.... especially not w/cj heads... i think you will have to find someone who is willing to part with one used...
 
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theres 2 428's, are they that rare? theres also a car on ebay that has on a black coupe, but does anyone make them? like aftermarket or something, and what other engines fit in a classic mustang?
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I think the semi hemi was rare but I dunno too much about fords. I grew up with gm and mopar. My '67 is the first ford in the family since my cousins got rid of their econoline van and mustang II a few years ago.

The paw catalog is great they have a lot of net engines in there. You could do a 351 stroked out to 408 and all kinds of things. They got lots of crate engines. You'll have to ask around about quality because I've heard totaly different things from different people.
 
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mob said:
theres 2 428 engines on ebay, are they that rare? theres also a car on ebay that has on a black coupe, would it be bad to buy one off ebay do you think? but does anyone make them? like aftermarket or something, and what other engines fit in a classic mustang? thanks for reply
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they're pretty rare... what year mustang? does he want originality or performance?
 
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I think the semi hemi was rare but I dunno too much about fords.
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The engine commonly referred to as a 'semi-hemi' was a Boss 429.... while close in cid to the 427/428, it was a completely different design. The Boss is one of the most sought after.

If your after just power, then THX is right in that there are many options including strokers.
 

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yea i thought the 429's were something hemi hes pretyt much going after performance, im not sure which car he is putting it in, he has a bunch, he is selling one, this red one, and he is restoring this white one, there both replicas, i know hes looking for the engine but im not sure where hes putting it, ill ask him


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what engines did the gt500's have again?
 
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The Shelby GT 500 had a 428 Cobra Jet... not to be confused with the the Super Cobra Jet. The 427 from unique performance is of a new casting of the old 427s and their's arent the cammer engines but just an all aluminum engine. The 427 "side oiler" is an awsome engine with its ability to rev higher than the 428 but what the 428 lacks in high revs it makes up in low end grunt. Neither engine is anything to scoff at but each have their place and their perks. I cannot remember but there is a shop that has a webpage that specialzes in FE's and they have crate engines for sale. From what I have heard they do great machine work and are the best bet for you. Maybe some Stangnet Member could help a bit. Be prepared to drop a few thousand though. Though the 428 is not necessaily rare like the Boss 429, they aren't that sought after because only the few really are impractical enough to own such an impractical engine... Its just awsome. What type of car were you planning on putting this engine in?
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The GT500's didn't have 428CJ's they had a 428PI ( police interceptor) motor. The main difference there was the heads, which really weren't that much different,mainly just that the CJ's had slightly larger valves ( 2.09 vs 2.04) If he wants a genuine 428CJ, then go to the Ford Big Block FE forums on Network54.com, there's usually someone there selling a 428CJ motor in the classifieds. If he wants to save a few dollar, just stick a warmed up 390 in there, with a 428PI intake painted blue, and a pair of CJ valve covers, nobody will be able to tell the difference.
 
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Keith Craft found at http://www.keithcraft.com/new_site/index.html has some enignes. A bit much for a street car but you can see what things are out there.
Kevin
 

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Check out this place.....

http://www.ford-motors-engines.com/index.html
 
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Not that I am going to try to sway you from the 428, you might consider getting a stroked 351 base block. That way you can make some really good power in a light package especially if handling is a consideration. With the 428 I highly recommend getting some weld in shock tower reinfocement(if it didn't already come with a FE), sub frame, shock tower brace and possibly a monte carlo bar which may be a bit more money and work than anticipated.
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thanks for the help guys, and the links, he is planning on putting it in one of the cars i posted above, the red or the white one
 
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I have a rebuilt 427 fe sitting in the shop right now if you are interested i can get all the specs on it.
 

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it is going in the white one i posted pictures of up there, i think he wants to make it a gt500 clone so i think he wants a 428cj, my dad knows a mustang mechanic so where going to ask him where we can get one and he can probably build it for us, thanks for your help guys
 
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Good Luck. You wont be dissappointed.
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This place has very good customer service if you email or call them.... They will even send you a video of the engine and how they build it,that your interested in buying. Its obviously not a place to find originals but they can match it up however you want. http://www.fordcobraengines.com/
 

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mob said:
it is going in the white one i posted pictures of up there, i think he wants to make it a gt500 clone so i think he wants a 428cj, my dad knows a mustang mechanic so where going to ask him where we can get one and he can probably build it for us, thanks for your help guys
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Again, Like D.Hearne said above, the '67 GT 500 didn't have a 428 CJ. It had a 428 PI with 2 4-barrel carbs.

This thread is extraordinarily full of bad info, so take it with a grain of salt.
 
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