Which cam do i use?

hollywoodstang · Jun 11, 2006

i want to get new cam but i do not know which one...

E303 or F303 or B303??? i have heard E is great but i have also heard B is better and i haven't heard much about F cam tho???

i do not have that many engine mods...it's just basic cobra set up.

IN: Gt-40 head
cobra intake with 65mm throttlebody
cobra(crane)1.7 roller rockers and cam
SMR strut tower bar
MSD 6AL controller
Stall converter
MSD wires
AUTOMETER Z air/fuel guage
AUTOMETER Z oil pressure guage
NOS system w/purge kit
BBK cold air induction kit
73mm C&L MAF 24lbs
PRO M 80mm MAF
FORD racing 24lbs injectors
BASSANI headers
BASSANI w/3inch exhaust outlet slash cut pipe
new pullys
ford racing 4:10 ring and pinion gears

Which cam do you guys recommend from FORD RACING???

i am going to add turbo set up next year. but i am NOT looking to make 600-700 horse power i have around 450hp in mind.

i need your help. thank you always

Michael Yount · Jun 11, 2006

If you're serious about the turbo set up, I'd leave the stock HO cam in there - works just fine with boost. If you must play with the cam, I wouldn't use any of the FRPP sticks. First choice is to get one of the custom guys to help you spec it; second is to look at CompCam's line of XE camshafts -- be sure to upgrade the springs on your GT40 heads no matter which aftermarket cam you use. Another good reason to leave the stocker in there.

hollywoodstang · Jun 11, 2006

what do you mean stock HO cam? the stock cobra cam or the GT cam>?

let me know thanks

p.s: so i guess i shouldn't buy a cam at all?

hollywoodstang · Jun 11, 2006

anyone?

mob · Jun 11, 2006

Stock HO cam (5.0 High Output) The stock cam itself is a good cam. But like said if you must have a cam for your combo there are lots of other better cams then the old school letter cams. TFS stage 1 cam is a great cam.

hollywoodstang · Jun 11, 2006

thanks

hollywoodstang · Jun 12, 2006

is this it??? tfs part #TFS-51402000

is this the best cam out there i can buy? is this cam better then comp cams and ford racing's??

mob · Jun 12, 2006

i dont expiereince but id say its better then the frpp cams. I hadent seen your mod list. Id look into a custom cam, or a cam made for boost if your running the juice, and planning a turbo build. Im not the person to ask.

TheRedBlur · Jun 12, 2006

I ran an F cam on a basically stock engine. It was really fast, has lots of mid/top end to it, which you'd like if you're running such a high gear (4.11). honestly though, if you have 4.10, you'd be better suited for a high/fast revving engine. so I'd go with something different, maybe a crane cam/spring package. Comp makes more power, but crane is more reliable.

hollywoodstang · Jun 12, 2006

why? is frpp cams bad or something??? i don't get it.

and i went to comp site and i got really confused about lifts and durations and other math tests....

other hand i went to trickflow site and found only 3 cams for my application 5.0 302,

so my simple question is

I am running turbo next year and i want cam to be compatible with my set up now and will work when i install turbo later also.

so what cam is that? TFS? COMP? FRPP?

if anyone knows GIVE ME THE COMPANY NAME AND PART #.

thanks fellas

mustangt93 · Jun 12, 2006

there is nothing wrong with the alphabet cams, but there are so many off the shelf cams that are better than them, your best bet is probably to get a custom cam, call someone up and tell them your combo and im sure they will set you up with the best cam for your combo

hollywoodstang · Jun 12, 2006

i do not know that someone....i just go to site and order and they show up at my door step...so who do i call???

cardudeusa · Jun 12, 2006

Ed Curtis?

NitroNixon · Jun 12, 2006

I have a B cam with 1.7 roller rockers in my car and I love it. There's nothing wrong with the alphabet cams. Get advice from people who actually used the alphabet cams, because most people just go by what they hear.

mob · Jun 12, 2006

NitroNixon said:
I have a B cam with 1.7 roller rockers in my car and I love it. There's nothing wrong with the alphabet cams. Get advice from people who actually used the alphabet cams, because most people just go by what they hear.

I have a bcam also, everything else is stock though. I like the cam, sounds amazing, pulls hard at 3k, and i ran a 13.5 with mods in my sig despite people saying the cam would hurt performance. I didnt put the cam in so I will be looking to put in a TFS stage 1 cam later on, but the letter cams are alright, for the price though theres so much better new technology then the old school letter cams.

And holywood, if your not looking into specs of the cams, and knowing exactly what you need, seriously just go to a site and pic a cam that looks cool and instal it. It seems like that is all you want and its not that easy. You need to find the right cam for your combo what you want, and what you plan to do. If you dont want to go through that, like i said just pick one because no one is going to give you a straight answer and say "get this one" unless you talk to a pro like ed curtis, etc.

TheRedBlur · Jun 12, 2006

it's sort of difficult to recommend you a cam. if you plan on turbo'ing next year, that opens up a whole other can of worms, how much boost, etc. If you put in a turbo stick now, it wont make so much power/mileage untill you tack on the boost. If you have stock pistons, go with a comp magnum cam. I have to go to school right now, but I can look up a part number for you. the important thing to know, LIFT MUST BE BELOW .514-.515 Unless you want to check piston to valve clearance. That's a royal pain in the ass. cams wtih .498 or so will do you just fine. more radical specs usually call for more radical heads/intakes, etc.

hollywoodstang · Jun 12, 2006

I freaking studied ALL NIGHT FOR THIS...went to 8 different site figured the math.

GOING WITH THIS ONE

this will benefit me the best i think. i am NOT looking to make 700hp even tho i will have the set up. i am going to use 8-10 max boost to make 450hp. period. bolt on type supercharger or turbo charger with intercooler. bov and fuel regulator. i just bought 24lbs injectors for my iron GT-40 but i will have to get new ones when i get new GT-40x heads or better. recommend 30lbs or larger injectors? please let me know.

this is the spec of the cam i am getting:

Engine Identification:
Start Yr. End Yr. Make Cyl Description
1985 Up FORD-MERCURY 8 GOOD MID-RANGE TORQUE AND HP, DESIGNED FOR USE WITH 1.7 RATIO ROCKERS AND MASS AIRFLOW STYLE F.I. ENGINES WITH AFTERMARKET INTAKE, HEADS, EXHAUST AND CENTRIFUGAL STYLE BLOWER BENEFITS BEST: 5-SPD OR AUTO W/MILD STALL CONVERTER. (50 STATE LEGAL 85-93, C.A.R.B. E.O. D-225-46) BASIC RPM 2000-5500
Engine Size Configuration
302 C.I. V

Valve Setting: Intake .000 Exhaust .000 HOT

Lift: Intake cam 302 @Valve 513 All Lifts are based
on zero lash and theoretical rocker arm ratios.
Exhaust @ Cam 311 @Valve 529
Rocker Arm Ratio 1.70

Cam Timing: TAPPET @.004
Lift: Opens Closes ADV Duration
Intake 28.0 BTDC 68.0 ABDC 276 °
Exhaust 75.0 BBDC 27.0 ATDC 282 °

Spring Requirements: Triple Dual Outer Inner
Part Number 99841
Loads Closed 113 LBS @ 1.950 or 1 61/64
Open 328 LBS @ 1.450
Recommended RPM range with matching components
Minimum RPM 1400
Maximum RPM 5400
Valve Float 6000

Cam Timing: TAPPET @.050
Lift: Opens Closes Max Lift Duration
Intake 0.0 BTDC 34.0 ABDC 107 214 °
Exhaust 47.0 BBDC (7.0) BTDC 117 220 °

Remarks:
FIRING ORDER: 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8 FOR USE WITH 1.7 RATIO COBRA ROCKER ARMS.

hollywoodstang · Jun 12, 2006

i am gonna have to get new springs with this i think....
do i have to?

legalize420 · Jun 12, 2006

NitroNixon said:
I have a B cam with 1.7 roller rockers in my car and I love it. There's nothing wrong with the alphabet cams. Get advice from people who actually used the alphabet cams, because most people just go by what they hear.

+1. i bet 8 out of 10 that say dont get an alphabet cam have never used one. i like mine.

Pennywise2 · Jun 12, 2006

TFS stage 1 or 2 cam or E cam.
Personly I like the specs on the E cam the most.

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