ok I know there are 2 sides to every story so I will post the actual e-mails and let you guys make your own decision. Ive been selling off my stock 16" Pony rims 2 sold on ebay and another guy contacted me and said if he could have just one. I said thats fine since the last one has bad curb rash and prob no one wants it ( he just wanted it for a spare) The deal was to sell it to him for $25 and $15 for shipping. At the last min he asked if he could also have the tire that came w/ it, I said fine ( I dident charge him for the tire, just wanted to get paid shipping for it) So I said throw in an extra $5 for the tire( even thogh I know it would have prob been like $10) for a total of $45 and we will call it good. Turns out I had a prob shipping the tire, I'll let the e-mails do the explaining. He thinks Im trying to screw him but I think I did him a favor, tell me what you think.
1ST E-MAIL AFTER I SENT THE RIM.......
Sorry it took a few days to get back to you, I Sent out the rim on Saturday, Ive just been busy over the weekend. I did run into a problem. I dident ship the tire b/c I dident realize that its so expensive to ship tires. According to UPS it costs $10 + the cost of Shipping just to ship a damn tire, dont ask me why its like that seems werid to me. So in all it would have cost about $25 just to ship that tire out of a box, he said the cost of a box to ship the tire in costs about as much and I dont have any boxes big enough to put it in. The Rim is on its way but I figured you would want to save some money and not pay an additional $25 just to get a used tire when you can prob get one for free else were. The tracking # for the rim is listed below.
1Z40X9750355657815
Travis
HIS RESPONSE................
travis-
so, as i understand it, you are sending me only a rim, where we had an agreement for a rim and tire.
two questions:
so, i am still paying $20 to ship just the rim, when you said it would be $20 for the weight of rim and tire?? and am i paying $25 for just the rim? we had agreed on $25 for a tire and a rim!
why didn't you ask me first if this was OK, before you decided to change the deal?? actually, i would have scrubbed the deal if it was just a rim.
joe
MY RESPONSE............
I took the Tire off at VIP ( place like NAPA except they do automotive work) They dident charge me to take the tire off the rim. I couldent send the tire and rim in one box b/c the size box I was using was the ones that my 17" rims came in and a rim w/ the tire on it will not fit in the box so I figured Id ship the rim in the box and they will just ship the tire as is b/c thats how I recived them when I orderd them. They had plastic wrap on them w/ the tracking # info on the tire. I figured thats how they ship tires. I had no Idea that UPS has addition cost for shipping tires above and beyond the regualar clost of shipping. Please feel free to call UPS and confirm this yourself but it cost $10 + the cost of shipping for a tire. Like I said I could not ship the tire on the rim b/c I did not have a big enough box they it would fit it. The cost of Shipping was $15.75 and you paid me $20 for shipping, Id be more then happy to send you the $5 back to you. I just dident think it would cost that much to ship a damn tire
Im not trying to rip you off, If I was I would have sent you the tire and said to you....oh yeah by the way you owe me an extra $25 for shipping from the tire. If you still want it thats fine but I wasent going to stick you w/ you oweing me more money unless it was ok w/ you first.
HIS NEXT E-MAIL..........
travis-
i have seen others that tightly wrap the tire/wheel combo in a black plastic bag, and then there is no extra charge. simple solution.
so, sounds like you were trying to make the best out of the situation. please send me the $5 difference in shipping costs:
MY LAST E-MAIL I SENT THIS MORN..............
I'll galdly send you the other $5 that you over paid for shipping. I dident have an over sized bag either to ship them in . I dont see why you expected me to send you the tire when you paid $5 to have it shipped ( which was ok w/ me b/c I figured it would prob cost more like $10 but I was cutting you a deal) and then to find out that it was going to cost me $10 to ship it + the cost of shipping. Are you saying that if you were in the same sisuation that you would have paid the extra $25 out of your own pocket just to ship the tire to me???? Call your local UPS store yourself and confirm what Ive told you all along about the shipping rates for tires. If there was a way that I could have sent the tire and rim together then I would have, the UPS store that I use dident give me any other options.
I dont get it, if I was trying to screw you I would have sent you the tire and then kept the recipt for proof and then told you I wanted the extra money for shipping it, I was doing you a favor by not sending it when you can go to any local gas station and pick up a used 16" tire and have it put on that rim. Do you really want to pay $25 just to ship a used tire when you can grab one almost anywhere for free?? Sorry you dont get it but I suppose this is what happnes when you try to do the right thing.
So whos In the wrong? Did I do the right thing by not sending it and trying to explain to him why or is he just being stubborn and difficult? Oppions please.....
Travis.
1ST E-MAIL AFTER I SENT THE RIM.......
Sorry it took a few days to get back to you, I Sent out the rim on Saturday, Ive just been busy over the weekend. I did run into a problem. I dident ship the tire b/c I dident realize that its so expensive to ship tires. According to UPS it costs $10 + the cost of Shipping just to ship a damn tire, dont ask me why its like that seems werid to me. So in all it would have cost about $25 just to ship that tire out of a box, he said the cost of a box to ship the tire in costs about as much and I dont have any boxes big enough to put it in. The Rim is on its way but I figured you would want to save some money and not pay an additional $25 just to get a used tire when you can prob get one for free else were. The tracking # for the rim is listed below.
1Z40X9750355657815
Travis
HIS RESPONSE................
travis-
so, as i understand it, you are sending me only a rim, where we had an agreement for a rim and tire.
two questions:
so, i am still paying $20 to ship just the rim, when you said it would be $20 for the weight of rim and tire?? and am i paying $25 for just the rim? we had agreed on $25 for a tire and a rim!
why didn't you ask me first if this was OK, before you decided to change the deal?? actually, i would have scrubbed the deal if it was just a rim.
joe
MY RESPONSE............
I took the Tire off at VIP ( place like NAPA except they do automotive work) They dident charge me to take the tire off the rim. I couldent send the tire and rim in one box b/c the size box I was using was the ones that my 17" rims came in and a rim w/ the tire on it will not fit in the box so I figured Id ship the rim in the box and they will just ship the tire as is b/c thats how I recived them when I orderd them. They had plastic wrap on them w/ the tracking # info on the tire. I figured thats how they ship tires. I had no Idea that UPS has addition cost for shipping tires above and beyond the regualar clost of shipping. Please feel free to call UPS and confirm this yourself but it cost $10 + the cost of shipping for a tire. Like I said I could not ship the tire on the rim b/c I did not have a big enough box they it would fit it. The cost of Shipping was $15.75 and you paid me $20 for shipping, Id be more then happy to send you the $5 back to you. I just dident think it would cost that much to ship a damn tire
Im not trying to rip you off, If I was I would have sent you the tire and said to you....oh yeah by the way you owe me an extra $25 for shipping from the tire. If you still want it thats fine but I wasent going to stick you w/ you oweing me more money unless it was ok w/ you first.
HIS NEXT E-MAIL..........
travis-
i have seen others that tightly wrap the tire/wheel combo in a black plastic bag, and then there is no extra charge. simple solution.
so, sounds like you were trying to make the best out of the situation. please send me the $5 difference in shipping costs:
MY LAST E-MAIL I SENT THIS MORN..............
I'll galdly send you the other $5 that you over paid for shipping. I dident have an over sized bag either to ship them in . I dont see why you expected me to send you the tire when you paid $5 to have it shipped ( which was ok w/ me b/c I figured it would prob cost more like $10 but I was cutting you a deal) and then to find out that it was going to cost me $10 to ship it + the cost of shipping. Are you saying that if you were in the same sisuation that you would have paid the extra $25 out of your own pocket just to ship the tire to me???? Call your local UPS store yourself and confirm what Ive told you all along about the shipping rates for tires. If there was a way that I could have sent the tire and rim together then I would have, the UPS store that I use dident give me any other options.
I dont get it, if I was trying to screw you I would have sent you the tire and then kept the recipt for proof and then told you I wanted the extra money for shipping it, I was doing you a favor by not sending it when you can go to any local gas station and pick up a used 16" tire and have it put on that rim. Do you really want to pay $25 just to ship a used tire when you can grab one almost anywhere for free?? Sorry you dont get it but I suppose this is what happnes when you try to do the right thing.
So whos In the wrong? Did I do the right thing by not sending it and trying to explain to him why or is he just being stubborn and difficult? Oppions please.....
Travis.
I know whe was "expecting" the tire as well but first of all he dident even have to pay for it and how many of you would have shelled out the $25 on the spot to ship it to him w/ no guarantee that he was going to pay you back for it?
