Whos in the wrong ( Long story )

[89MustangGX]

what you should have said was let me find out about shipping the tire and ill give you an exact amount.

But since he wants his money back i would go down to the UPS store or Mail Box Etc, by an envelope and a stamp with his $5 get the change and the reciept and put it in the envelope and send it back that way.

I agree on the first part.

The second part is completely wrong. The $5 was to cover shipping of a tire. Not to pay for the seller's mistake or to pay to get his own money back or to him anything else.

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Either ship the guy his tire, or send him his $5 back and hope there's no such thing as karma.

 

[donjohn]

$5 is nothing compared to what it would actually cost to get a bigget box for the tire not even taking into consideration for the extra weight of the tire.

The original deal was for the rim anyways so it sounded like the tire wasn't even that important to the other guy. Sticking with the original deal you already had the box set up for the rim not accounting for the size of the tire, asking another $5 for the tire and shipping for it is a gift and if it doesn't work out nobody should get pissed.

At least you were reaonable and actually shipped the guy what you were supposed to- at least originally. After like 1.5-2 months the b@stard finally shipped my visors to me, thats a long time.

Are you allowed to just go get a crappy used tire to put on your spare?

 

[Venom351R]

On top of that, you weren't even going to send him back his $5 unless he asked for it...were you just going to keep it as a bonus???

Nobody's perfect, but there is something to be said for owning up to your mistakes.

Read the E-mail again, I OFFERD!!!!!!!! him the $5 back to him before he even asked for it.

before you make a blatent comment like that make sure you know what your talking about.

 

[89MustangGX]

Read the E-mail again, I OFFERD!!!!!!!! him the $5 back to him before he even asked for it.

before you make a blatent comment like that make sure you know what your talking about.

Why don't you try reading it again before putting on your Internet Tough Guy routine, here -- let me make it easier for you:

1ST E-MAIL AFTER I SENT THE RIM.......

Sorry it took a few days to get back to you, I Sent out the rim on Saturday, Ive just been busy over the weekend. I did run into a problem. I dident ship the tire b/c I dident realize that its so expensive to ship tires. According to UPS it costs $10 + the cost of Shipping just to ship a damn tire, dont ask me why its like that seems werid to me. So in all it would have cost about $25 just to ship that tire out of a box, he said the cost of a box to ship the tire in costs about as much and I dont have any boxes big enough to put it in. The Rim is on its way but I figured you would want to save some money and not pay an additional $25 just to get a used tire when you can prob get one for free else were. The tracking # for the rim is listed below.

1Z40X9750355657815

Travis

Now look REALLY hard and find the part where you offerred to send him the $5 back or told him you already did. You didn't. When he complained about not getting what you AGREED to send him for the price you AGREED on, after he sent you the AGREED amount of money, then you "offerred" to send the $5 back to him -- only after he complained though.

That message didn't say -- "write back so we can figure this out" or anything else for that matter -- as far as you were concerned the deal was done and you were $5 richer.

I think what you did (are doing) is completely dishonest. I'm not going to try to teach life lessons or anything, but you have a lot to learn when it comes to dealing with people.

Right now, you're in the ranks with those people someone posts about on a message board to "be careful dealing with -- because he doesn't send what you pay for..."

 

[1hot5.0]

Ok after reading this over a little more, I have to agree with the others. Why wouldn't you have checked the price on shipping? I have sold things on the classifieds here, and I sure as in all heck checked the shipping price, let the buyer know the price of the item w/ shipping, then (if they agreed on the terms of the sale) sent the item out.

Imho, you should have eaten the additional cost of shipping.

 

[95GTvert[bv12]]

he got the orginal deal and i bet he knew you were going to lose money shipping the tire and that it was going to be mroe the $10. If i was him i would be happy that you didnt stick me with the extra cost...I would have done the same thing if i was in your shoes...he got his extra $5 back...$5 dosen't even buy you 2 gallons of gas around here.

 

[lager94GT]

I've shipped tires and know the problem you had. You were honest in your emails. My vote goes to you.

 

[stang2004]

all this over 5 dollars, geez

 

[95cobraguy]

why in the world would u bring back this dinosaur of a thread?

 

[gcomfx.com]

why in the world would u bring back this dinosaur of a thread?

Must have been searching for $5 on here?

 

[mustangt562]

It all falls back on you here. You're right you shouldn't have stuck him with the bill -- if you stuck by the deal you made YOU would have paid it. You made the deal -- you should have stuck by it. You're lucky it was just a 'gift' so he can't really be too upset, but if it was me, I'd feel the same way. You re****ed on the deal, the other guy did nothing wrong.

On top of that, you weren't even going to send him back his $5 unless he asked for it...were you just going to keep it as a bonus???

Nobody's perfect, but there is something to be said for owning up to your mistakes.

x2 I AGREE BRO.

REDLINE_RR YOU were shady in that deal. The guy was just going off of what you said and then after you found out that the price YOU told him was less than the amount it would have cost you backed out. If you were ethical you would have eaten the cost. Put yourself in his shoes and think of what you would have done if someone were saying to you what you said to him. Then again from reading your post you dont seem open minded enough to be able to empathize with others. People who make deals like you irritate me. Its like dealing with a 4 year old. No HONOR at all!

Remember YOU posted this up for OUR opinions. What did you expect sugar coated corn flakes? Lets see how much honor you have in your ability to take criticism that you opened yourself up for.

 

[mustangt562]

Thanks for the replys, I like the offer of sending him $5 in pennys and charging him for the shipping I know whe was "expecting" the tire as well but first of all he dident even have to pay for it and how many of you would have shelled out the $25 on the spot to ship it to him w/ no guarantee that he was going to pay you back for it?


Do my home work?? how often do you check w/ UPS before you ship something? I know I dont I just box it up bring it in and ship it.

Actually, I do go to their (ups/usps) website and plug in the wt. to find the shipping. An easy way to find the wt of an item is to stand on a bathroom scale without the item, note the wt. then stand on the scale with the item, note the wt. and subtract the difference. Then plug in the number on the shipping calculator on the ups/usps website. Its called being smart and not lazy and only takes 2 seconds

 

[mustangt562]

b/c like I said before I was on my way to a weekend BBQ and if I dident ship it out on that day ( sat ) then it would not have been shipped out until today and we had been talking through e-mail for along time and we both just wanted it shipped. I may have been wrong for " assuming" that it wouldent cost much to ship the tire but hey Im not friggin perfect we all make mistakes, all Im saying is that I belive Im in the right for not sending it to him and sticking him w/ a bill for anohter $25 for him to owe me. At least I shipped out the rim insted of doing nothing at all.

This line of thinking is TOTALLY selfish!!! I hear these kinda excuses from drug addict borderline/antisocial personalities all the time at work (I work in a psyc hospital).


"its not my fault, its not my fault, see how great I am I did this for you!!!!!"

GROW UP!

 

[Henceforward]

all this over 5 dollars, geez

Hey Wenzel went down in flames over $25... Some people can't let money go.

 

[reddy351]

Ok. You have done nothing wrong. You can always send him the tire, if he wants it. Your first mail to him could have been like this "Shipping the tire was a lot more than I thought it would be. The wheel is on the way. What do you want to do about the tire?" He said in his last email to you to just send the $5 back, which you are willing to do. (Only you know if you were going to keep the $5. Not prudent here.) So, you have gotten the answer from him, He didn't want to pay to ship the tire, either. "Good call" on your part. I don't think he's being difficult to get along with. It was just a miscommunication. It happens.

 

[parchisi]

I think we can let this thread die again......I bet that two years after the fact, things have worked themselves out by now.

 

[95cobraguy]

I think we can let this thread die again......I bet that two years after the fact, things have worked themselves out by now.

i agree, and if it hasn't worked itself out by now over $5 or $25 or whatever it is then these people need evaluations.

 

[Green 94 5.0]

I sold locally a complete EFI wiring harness for $125. This thing goes for like $500. Well I threw in a EEC that came with it when I bought it. A month later the guy wants half the money back because the EEC didn't work. I'm like dood the EEC was a gift you didn't pay anything for it, I was going to throw it away. I laughed my ass off on that one. Note to self-Do not throw in any freebies.

that eddy rpm you sold me had a blemish in the polishing that you didnt tell me about.....i want a refund damnit!

 

[scarless]

Never never never quote a shipped price unless it fits in a fixed rate USPS box or you weigh it and get an exact number. FYI you may have been able to buy a box and ship everything for close to the same price. Always tell someone if there is a problem, don't just ship it.