why the hatred for imports? discuss...

[Boss 351]

It's these f-----ing morons with civics with fart pipes and loud sound systems. They all look like 70 pound little POS kids, I don't know why they would want to draw attention to themselves.

Even yesterday, I was on main street eating supper and a bunch of Civics with fart pipes and loud systems farted on by... MOST PEOPLE at the restaurant LAUGHED at them. I am not joking about this, some pointed and laughed and others sighed "what's wrong with these kids". Then on the rare occasion we see a real car drive by like a 71 Duster or a GT500 Mustang, people would look in awe.

Imports are okay I guess, not my cup of tea but the ricers are dirt bags that should be taken off the road. I sort of wish there was a strict noise pollution law in town here, even if it means adding quiet mufflers to my Mustang... AT least I wouldn't have to hear these wet fart sounding little FWD POS 4 bangers

 

[superspec]

oh and superspec always thought 2000ish sentras where crap friend had an s-er wasnt impressed, but yours looks sharp. Suprising and nice to see one done up nice performance wise and have a aftermarket bumper that doesnt look like someone put on while playing pin the tail on car

thank you sir. ive spent enough money to have a stupid fast mustang..... but i also have the only ser with this setup. everything in mine is one off. thats something most people cant say and be honest about it. the only thing in mine that is off the shelf is valves,o rings and gaskets.

 

[blackened88lx]

I do not hate imports in general, I actually think a couple of them are cool. I can say that I do hate all fwd cars though. Sinking money into a fwd economy car to try and make it fast is just a mind blowing level of stupidity. Yes, it can be done. But unless you have more money than brains and just want to do it for a challenge, wtf is the point? Sending power to the front wheels alone is the complete opposite of everything that makes sense in drag racing.

Now, awd turbo cars such as STIs, Evos, DSMs, Audi, etc. I can appreciate, and I have respect for most of them. They can be made very fast in the 1/4 mile, and also handle very well. I still don't agree with spending that kind of money on them though, and I could never deal with the sound every day.

As far as the ricer attitude, that is the worst part about "imports". But these "ricers" drive all types of cars. There are countless cars in my town with the typical ricer mods. Huge wings, fart cans, cai, and a huge tach that doesn't work. Every single one of them will rev the hell out of their 17 second car when they see a Mustang. Even my buddy's h/c/i blower fox. It has welds with big dr's and skinnys, gauges everywhere, and sounds like the world is coming to an end when driving down the road, but they'll still try and race it. They just don't get it. THAT is ignorance.

 

[1990Coupe]

I dont hate on imports, i just hate anything thats riced out... that would include mustang too if their riced out and i'm sure u guys have seen riced out mustangs...

+1 agree with you on that one. its an attitude being a ricer

to me, "ricer" is an attitude.

Some of you are talking about ricers.....the man asked about imports. there is a difference. Personally Im just a car fan whether its for show (tastefully done) or for go, import or domestic. A nice car is a nice car no matter what company built it.

+1 but like someone else said, an import can be done very tastefully yet the owner is a prick, thus making him a ricer

I do hate imports on some degree, its the idiot in me i can't help it, like not to long ago i seen a ford and gmc truck stopped at a local wawa with bridgewater lexus and toyota written on it. Asked the driver if the tundra (or tacoma i dont know which one) , is so damn great since all i see is its crap commercials then why don't they use those as there company trucks? and he didnt have an answer.....i also get a kick when i see a titan with a ladder rack on it, anyways i just like american cars family thing i guess, imo alot of people just dont like american cars just because they think there crap because some uncle of theirs had a 80 something crap wagon that always broke down (probably a chevy). But reports like jd annual report said ford bested toyota in quality, but that will make no damn difference because these people are set in there ways which make me in turn dislike imports(can't help it). But alot of my non import likings come from where i lived where ******* kids 17 got a new evo or sti their parents brought them, and they drive like asses get into accidents and call my car crap cuz while i have to nickel and dime for a mod theyre parents buy them a brand new exhuast or whatever those crap bags want. Gf mom asked me a few weeks ago wat car i was thinking about next or eventually, i showed her pics of future ideas to which she replied "but they look so american..." wtf??

I agree with you on the ford quality thing. People think the overall ford brand is a POS when I just dont think it is. Ive owned an explorer that was great to me, my friend owns an escape which is good too him, my dad drives a tarus to and from work as his commuter and another friend has a 250 turbo desiel which is so bad ass. Ford gets teh bad wrap nowadays..

On the import subject.... Most of you are die hard fox... I would consider myself one as well. Ive owned 3 foxes. However, even the fox i currently own is for sale. As far as im conserned if someone offered me the "right" amount of money, then its theres plain and simple. I love STi's as well, and thats a car i would sell my fox for. BUT i wouldn't be long without a fox. the beauty is, i can buy some 4 banger project fox, and build it the way ive always wanted, the way in which the 3 ive owned throughout the course of my life never were.

 

[Flavadave4]

I hang out with a group of guys here in town called the v8smokers, www.v8smokers.com

A bunch of DSM cars, but they are really nice guys and do all there own tuning and building. We all became really close friends and now there are more V8 cars on the site then imports, fast is fast I dont care what you drive.

BTW- The 2 cars that started the club have both trapped over 130mph in the 1/4 and been in the 10.90's with 1.6 60' times. I don't care what you drive, thats impressive to me.

 

[68stang351]

If you own a mustang you must be loyal to it...most people are.

Yes. Wanna talk about loyalty? My wife has the running horse tattooed on her back.

Between me and my wife, we have owned 12 Mustangs. We currently have 3 drivers (68, 90, 04) and 3 future projects/parts cars (another 68, 87 coupe, 98).

Before all the Mustangs we both had F150's, a 91 & a 92.
We have owned 0 imports. I did have a 03 Silverado for a while but I came to my senses.

We love our Mustangs, in our eyes there is no equal car!

 

[Busted07]

I dont hate any certain type of car. I dislike the fact that some people (in the mustang community as well) just have (IMO) completely poor taste when modifying thier vehicle. I have owned a ton of different vehicles, everything from a 78 monte carlo to a 93 eclipse, and ive learned that certain things just dont look right on a car.

I definately respect any car that has alot of work in it (tastefully) and that is fast. I rode in a 1G GSX that launched so hard, my neck hurt for 2 days, and thats why i have respect for those.. before that, i didnt know what the hell a DSM was. That definately opened my eyes to imports having great potential.

But i have to admit, im partial to domestic muscle cars. Nothing puts a smile on my face faster than hearing a big ass cam lope, and feeling the exhaust in my chest.

 

[89five.o]

Having lived in Japan, Germany and the United States I've grown fond of all sorts of make and models and different racing styles. It's funny if you brought a corvette or mustang to Japan you could make a killing selling it. Whereas a Supra or Skyline are gold over here. While I was in Tokyo it seemed like everywhere I looked cars were european. I think that I saw more Mercedes over there than I have in Germany. I'm a fan of any car that's tastefully done and which has some sort of performance pedigree. I would love to have a Supra,Skyline,STI or M3 etc. etc. They're all sweet cars. But I love the sound of my 5.0 even though it could never hang in the corners with the forementioned without a lot of work. As for me, my next car will more than likely be a 03-05 WRX STI. Call it rice if you want but I could really care less

 

[Strype]

I just had some old guy in a Lexus without a front bumper and huge intercooler run up about an inch from my bumper on the way to work. He took off making sure I could hear his not so impressive turbo. Sounded like an eclipse turbo.

Importers set the bench mark for power by our cars. Then everytime they do something to them it's "Oh let's **** with this guy in the mustang". When in all actuality we don't care. We're not into those cars, we don't want to hear them revved up at us, and for the most part we're not going to race them. It's annoying.

Any well done car I like, but 90% of the idiots I see are just like the asshat this morning. They've got their ball cap sideways revving their crap up with something to prove. Gets on my last nerve. For the most part, importers or "tuners" are 18 year old wanna be thugs or stupid kids who have their heart set on making their car something it isn't. In my part of the country we call them ******* **** ** *******( ** *(*SD S*Dew8e 8 8988***** **** **(*(* ************* *(*SD89rf9ewq8`-[************s.

 

[1990Coupe]

Having lived in Japan, Germany and the United States I've grown fond of all sorts of make and models and different racing styles. It's funny if you brought a corvette or mustang to Japan you could make a killing selling it. Whereas a Supra or Skyline are gold over here. While I was in Tokyo it seemed like everywhere I looked cars were european. I think that I saw more Mercedes over there than I have in Germany. I'm a fan of any car that's tastefully done and which has some sort of performance pedigree. I would love to have a Supra,Skyline,STI or M3 etc. etc. They're all sweet cars. But I love the sound of my 5.0 even though it could never hang in the corners with the forementioned without a lot of work. As for me, my next car will more than likely be a 03-05 WRX STI. Call it rice if you want but I could really care less

well said and it will be my next car as well!

 

[89five.o]

I completely agree. But i've seen my share of those driving around in mustangs as well though, so I don't think the car matters much. People like that give me good things to read when I'm bored though. www.darwinawards.com

 

[gambit90lx]

imports

like the old commercial used to say "why ask why"

 

[Boss 351]

I just had some old guy in a Lexus without a front bumper and huge intercooler run up about an inch from my bumper on the way to work. He took off making sure I could hear his not so impressive turbo. Sounded like an eclipse turbo.

Importers set the bench mark for power by our cars. Then everytime they do something to them it's "Oh let's **** with this guy in the mustang". When in all actuality we don't care. We're not into those cars, we don't want to hear them revved up at us, and for the most part we're not going to race them. It's annoying.

Any well done car I like, but 90% of the idiots I see are just like the asshat this morning. They've got their ball cap sideways revving their crap up with something to prove. Gets on my last nerve. For the most part, importers or "tuners" are 18 year old wanna be thugs or stupid kids who have their heart set on making their car something it isn't. In my part of the country we call them ******* **** ** *******( ** *(*SD S*Dew8e 8 8988***** **** **(*(* ************* *(*SD89rf9ewq8`-[************s.

+1

Friday nights is street races at the drag strip. But us V8 guys get to cut in line so we don't have to wait with the fartcans hehe. Anyway my friend and I were waiting (in the V8 line) with our engines OFF and all we could hear were 50 or so ricers revving the piss out of their engines . One kid said loud enough for us to hear "let's piss off the Mustangs" and started to revv his farting integra. I looked at him and started to laugh, then made fart noises with my mouth and hands and said "doesn't piss me off, you're the one with the car that sounds like a wet fart".

Another occasion on a Saturday morning, this kid in a red civic was revving and bumping off the limiter in line. On saturday we mostly have V8 cars there. I was with my cousin (in a 73 firebird)... he moves up next to the kid - revvs his engine (****ing loud) and says "THIS IS A REAL CAR, YO BETTER SHUT YOUR POS OFF" or something like that... I was laughing my butt off.

 

[skunk21]

I hate imports for a number of reasons, one they have for the most part a lack of repsect for other motorist. they love to be in your face obnotious and it gets old. I can't stand the chain saw buzz exhaust at every street light along with bass that loosens my own lug nuts. the body kits that no natter what just won't grow on me, and if a see another lambo doored car at a show I'm going to ripping it off!

before I got my mustang, I would be driving my svt contour (still have it) to enjoy it and man everyone wants to race me, they would pace me egg me on, wtf get the hell away. I used to be heavy into autocross and I'm like looking at these little punks like, screw the straight line crap lets get into the twisties if you want to prove something..lets see if you got some skill lets pull some lat. g's .


now that is my take on the import/ricer scence.

imports car market:

american cars are just has good, there fore I'll keep my money here. even though they may make cars here, and employ at lower wages, they are not and will not ever be an american car company period.

all of the profit goes back overseas and is reinvested over there, in thier market. our big 3 profits stay here and are reinvested here. they will not allow us to sell cars over there, or allow us to build factories over there. they charge us import taxes through the roof to bring stuff in so we stopped, and wont allow us to make stuff there so they closed us out. they tried selling escorts in japan, but they wanted $30,000 for them so we gave up. now china wants to start making cars and is looking at building a factory here, but again they ahve a law and the goverment controls all factory construction, we will never be over there, this was on autoline detriot. this outta hand, crazy.

the dealerships are crazy what the hell is this no haggle you pay sticker bull, we have supply and demand on our side. they did the same thing with the tundra and it's back firing, they may offer for the first time ever rebates on it, why because they tried screwing with the working man who buys them, they walked away and bought f150's. yet we keep running in and buying.

in all the other countries, we build and sell, no problem. not asia they close us out. yet they are making a killing of us, racing in our heartland and laughing to the bank with our sweat and money.

 

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

Why? Well, consider this recent brush with the cubicly challenged kind i had a couple weekends ago...

I was driving my coupe (which keep in mind...my car is no rocket...we're talking a mid to low 13 second car right now) and i happened to come to a stop at a light next to a parking lot full of little ricers.

One of them says "do a burnout!"...to which i replied "nah man there's a cop right over there in Taco Bell parking lot"...to which he replies "yeah yeah you just ain't got nothin!"



So i laugh (literally) and say "why don't you bring that turd out here to the highway and find out what i've got" knowing damn well he wouldn't. "Oh man i've just got a stock Cavalier" said the kid (ok so why talk BS when that's all you've got?) and another says "i've got a slipping clutch"...to which i reply "sounds like you've ALL got nothing but excuses" and off i drive.



Later that night, maybe 45 minutes later i came back through the same spot on my way back home, and they were still there. So...i figured WTF why not stir the pot...and once again at the red light i say "anyone find their balls yet? it's getting late and gas is too expensive to wait out here all night"



So one of them says why don't you come in here and park and show us what's under the hood. So hell, why not. I go in, open the hood (and mind you, we're talking about the amazing nearly stock '85 250k+ engine here..lol)....you'd have thought John Force pulled up in his racecar and lifted the nose up. Jaws dropped....one kid actually knew a thing or three about old cars and starts naming off parts, then says to his friend "you need to stop talking $hit before this guy hands you your ass"...to which all his friends laughed at him.


Basically....this is a perfect example of how 99% of import guys act. There wasn't a 15 second car in that whole lot, yet they felt the need to act like they had it all. I even told the one kid who was naming off parts that i had nothing against FAST imports...i just don't like $hit talkers.


I think a lot of the problem is that kids these days don't seem to be growing up with car guys like kids used to. There are less and less dads spending time wrenching in the garage and teaching their sons about cars, and all these kids have to go on is stupid movies like fast and the bi-curious.

 

[89five.o]

There are less and less dads spending time wrenching in the garage and teaching their sons about cars, and all these kids have to go on is stupid movies like fast and the bi-curious.

Your killing me. I probably shouldn't laugh so loud at work.......what was I doing again, oh yes looking up corrosion........

 

[Deleted member 87397]

I don't mind fast imports. Heck I own a fast import and a fox. I think you hit it right on when you said "tastefully built" Those are the acceptable ones and if one happens to spank me, which hasn't happened yet thankfully, I'll give em props. Much like everyone else here what I hate most is the ones that are all blinged/riced up and the attitudes of the drivers in those cars. That is all.

 

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

I would honestly love to have a quick little turbo Honda for a daily driver. Why not? Something fun, good on gas mileage....i sure wouldn't have all that stupid body kit crap on it but hell for a commuter i'd drive one for sure. I really REALLY want an Evo actually, for the AWD and snow, but they're out of my price range and i already have a Jeep.

 

[Boss 351]

I would like: WRX (even if it isn't an STi), Golf GTi, Ion Redline (not an import but is still a FWD 4 banger) as a daily driver. But all I can afford for now is a Hyundai Accent... Which is funny because it has the 1.6L twin cam, ok wow 105hp LOL... Anyway this kid in town has a black accent with huge wheels (looks like a 4x4) and a fart pipe. I started to laugh at myself thinking "What in the hell do these guys think that 'this' has potential at being anything other than an econo box"...

I mean where do you get off, thinking your FWD 4 banger would be fun with 300 something HP? I've had some 'strong' FWD cars (GM products 3300V6 for example) and torque steer is a bitch, plus a FWD burnout just looks like you popped a rad hose to me and spinning the front wheels isn't much of a challenge since the weight shifts to the rear wheels. I can spin going into 2nd with my accent and that doesn't make want to install a fart pipe?

I agree though, kids aren't brought up right. Build whatever they want, put huge wings and body kits on a 17 second 4 banger, that doesn't bother me at all. What pisses me off is their attitude... Even a lot of real "tuners" with strong cars are idiots on the roads, more so than V8 owners, imo.

I'm just glad I'm into V8s... My Mustang can spin more going into second than a Civic can with a handbrake and j-drop My guess is that most of the ricers NEVER even had a ride in a real car.

 

[05MGT]

I've seen riced out distasteful Mustangs too.....it can happen to everyone!!!! Dun Dun DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!