Will make you laugh!

The newest V6 Camry's and Accord's are solid 14 second cars, hell the damn Toyota Tundra 5.7 runs 14's in the right body configuration.

14's are not fast by todays standards.

Don't care what his power claims are, I care that a blown Altima would walk a mild fox with ease!

Nothing wrong with thinking or knowing this either, it's not a negetive to the fox, just a positive to the Altima.

There's been a little confusion. I drive a 93 Camry, 193K on the clock, air blows ice cold, every day to work. My 94 Carolla had 269K on the clock when it passed away last year, still getting 28 mpg. I doubt highly my LX coulda, or woulda, done that, I wouldn't ask it to have. We used to go every year to Road America, to watch Geoff Brabham tear the chit out of the American cars with his GTP-ZX(a Nissan with true stones). I love the new Altima, looks awesome, and runs its ass off, and prolly will for many, many years. If I bought a pickup today, it'd be Tacoma 4 door 4X4. But, in 87/88, when I hit US30 with my new, speed density, 3.08 geared, silenced, factory h-piped LX hatch, we ran low 14's regularly, on VR's, a notoriously crappy tire. A stock 5.0, 20+ years later, tired and unbuilt, with a clod behind the wheel, would get walked by one of these, I have no question, especially if you spooled the Nissan up. But, back in the day, when we first raced these cars, they weren't the slouch all the younger guys seem to believe them to have been- and were dirt cheap. Soma you guys shoulda been there when the 5.0 rep was made, before you think what they are now, is what they were, when they dropped like the bomb on Hiroshima on the industry. Ahh, the good old days.....and racing ain't done "from a roll", thats a crutch used by real non-drivers, to remove the only driver oriented skill from racing. Getting out of the hole is where a driver makes the difference. Kids today, I'll tellya.

Strippt88 said:

The guy in his 40's with a race Altima spent a LOT of time in his 20's getting his ass handed to him by 5.0's, and was trying to make it all go away by wasting a pile of $ on his latest wanna be race car. Altima's are great DD's, but not a race car. Many people haven't learned, it was this way back then, in the 5.0's new days, too. Nobody said we were fast, but everyone compared themselves to the 5.0. "Its faster than a 5.0!", who hasn't heard that? Its good to be the king.

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he was prolly an IROC guy back in the day lol

Because we are younger, and newer cars run stronger than stock fox's, we get the response... "Kids today, I'll tellya" We happen to know what fox's can and can't do, and what they did for modern performance cars, but there are a LOT of family/luxury cars today that make them look slow in stock form.

can you twin turbo a twin supercharged car dont see why not. anythings possible!

Gearbanger 101 said:

I was just going to say that. As full of as this guy might have been, the sad truth is that a the bone stock luxury sedan it is would probably be more than a match for a stock Fox body......especially if someone were foolish enough to run them from a roll.

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atleast someone got what I was saying.

25thmustang said:

Because we are younger, and newer cars run stronger than stock fox's, we get the response... "Kids today, I'll tellya" We happen to know what fox's can and can't do, and what they did for modern performance cars, but there are a LOT of family/luxury cars today that make them look slow in stock form.

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No, brother, you don't get the response "Kids today" cuz you're younger and newer cars run stronger. You had to be there, when Fox's were new, to know what they did stock. Unless you found one in the back of a showroom somewhere, never used(or used up, as they all are by now). Stock parts, now, still isn't factory fresh, with the stickers in the windows. They were better than the articles everyone reads, in magazines with drivers who never took the time to learn how to make them RUN, like only an owner can. Not a lot better, but a couple thenths-and the speed density cars ran better than the MAF cars, close to stock, so the newer you got, the slower they went. Your car is real close to stock, look what that bad boy does! But the bigger issue is, for how much? My first was $11,080, Dick James Ford, South Holland, Il, Dec 23, 1987. For the cash these newer cars cost, they BETTER run circles around a $11,000 car, 2,3, times more $-many are more than that. I know I wouldn't mix it up with a new Altima, or an Acura, a proper Toyota, anymore, but for what they cost, I'da never been embarassed.