Ryan's 02 GT said:I'm with Nates02GT. I thought these forums were to assist other with their own trials and what to do and not to do. He explained himself and the problems. If you feel as though his opions are wrong or you had a good experience then post. But to say him bashing a company on the internet is bad doesn't make no sense to me. To spend $1300 for 8-10HP and not have it fit as described would piss me off too. Just my .02
mrvax said:I think the thread is appropriate b/c the user posted his experience, problems etc and gave details. It was not a simple so-and-so shop sucks thread. Nothing wrong with posting this. It will be well balanced by positive threads for Fox Lake.
Nates02GT said:Snip......
Talked to Ron at Fox Lake and he said people are cutting holes in thier hood to make it fit and that it is not his problem it is Fords problem because there can be .5" difference in how high the engine mounts. Instead of trying to help he hung up on me. GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE!!
Nates02GT said:I just dropped $1600 for a P-51 and valve covers from Fox .
Talked to Ron at Fox Lake and he said people are cutting holes in thier hood to make it fit and that it is not his problem it is Fords problem because there can be .5" difference in how high the engine mounts. Instead of trying to help he hung up on me. GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE!!
Nates02GT said:For clarification, I talked to Ron after I posted, simply because people told me that I should. I didnt figure that there was anything that Fox Lake could do. The intake was on, it wasnt coming back off. Im not going to ask for a new hood so what is the point in calling IMO. Aside from fitment it worked as described. I will try to take a picture of my hood and post it.
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You are correct, C&L does not make a lower intake, just upper plenum and that with the factory lower is what I referred to. Maybe wasn't worded correctly. You are not the first or last to make a post like this. And you post certainly did not read, P51 IS AWSOME BUT LISTEN TO WHAT HAPPENED. The truth is in the middle somewhere.Nates02GT said:For clarification, I talked to Ron after I posted, simply because people told me that I should. I didnt figure that there was anything that Fox Lake could do. The intake was on, it wasnt coming back off. Im not going to ask for a new hood so what is the point in calling IMO. Aside from fitment it worked as described. I will try to take a picture of my hood and post it.
As far as my conversation with Fox Lake, it wasnt much more than I described aside from him telling me that someone had called him about what I had posted. Then I tried to explain to him that I wasnt 'bashing' his product. I was giving it a fair shake, I laid out both the good and bad. I also offered to help him make the 'instruction manual' better which he refused. I also told him that I didnt expect him to do anything for me as there wasnt much that could be done. After that he told me that he didnt really have anything more to say and we ended the conversation. It was not a heated angry conversation whatsoever. As I said in the MD thread I could have used a different title. That is the only thing that I would change aside from possibly calling Fox Lake first. But I also believe that if they really stood behind their product and believed in it, they would have reacted more positively to try and remedy the problem even if it was a simple, 'im sorry, I havent heard of anyone else having that problem'. Instead they blame it on Ford. Ford didnt write their advertisement as far as I know. I will say it again. My problem isnt with their intake but with their ADVERTISEMENT.
As far as the Accufab and C&L intakes, I didnt know they made intake manifolds for the 4.6L. In fact I just checked C&L's website and dont see one so you must have a special edition or something like that. I already have the C&L INLET TUBE AND MAF as well as the ACCUFAB THROTTLE BODY. And no even if they did make intake manifolds, I wouldnt swap, its too much work. Lastly, as I have said what feels like a million times. THE P-51 IS AWESOME but not as advertised. CMON people, learn how to READ.
wow, so a stock the stock intake manifolds flows at much as a after market intake with bigger ports, etc etc.lover said:$1300 for an intake? Whew. Most guys are running serious numbers with an Accufab or a C&L. I don't see spending that much money on an intake that flows only moderately over the 2 forementioned intakes.
Nates02GT said:BOTTOM LINE is they should say that you should get a new hood but you can use the stock one if you dont mind a rub mark and they SHOULD say something about switching the oil filler neck so idiots like me know whats going on from the get go.
Talked to Ron at Fox Lake and he said people are cutting holes in thier hood to make it fit and that it is not his problem it is Fords problem because there can be .5" difference in how high the engine mounts. Instead of trying to help he hung up on me. GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE!!
i dont think lover understands the t/b and plenum will have it's limits once the air enters the intake manifold(porting it wont be near as great as the flow on the p51)mogs01gt said:wow, so a stock the stock intake manifolds flows at much as a after market intake with bigger ports, etc etc.right
I have seen the p51 fit underneath a stock hood without any problems.
dsg_gt2004 said:for flow....i would love to see the numbers of the stock manifold on a car with a blower compared to the P51 manifold on a car with blower..i know the P51 would murder the stocker
thanks, i appreciate thatdroptopponynj said:dyno for NA and Blown on website.
http://foxlake.accrisoft.com/index.php?src=news&prid=44&category=Front Page
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