Will this destroy Tranny?

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When I'm slowing down sometimes I downshift into D1 (<3000rpm)
Or other times I may put it in D1 and go 75% throddle until 3000rpm

I have a stock AOD w/ Cooler

 

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Nobody knows?

 

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I dunno. I do it every day. 3000 RPMS is pretty low. I slap it down to 1 and let the RPM's zip up to 4500RPM and slow me down. I also run 1 out to 5500 all the time.

50,000 miles later she still shifts like the day i got it.

BUT. I am about to do a 5-spd swap, so i don't care about my AOD. I am TRYING to blow it up

 

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After time it will, yeah.

AOD's are the strongest tranny out there.

 

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Brakes are alot cheaper than transmissions...you should use them to slow you down!

 

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LMAO so very true. 30 dollar pads or 1000 dollar tranny hmmmm.

 

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If your tranny is bone stock, yes it will come apart after time. There is a snap ring on the direct drive clutch drum that will blow off. If you have an experienced builder rebuild your AOD, then he will know to modify the drum to lock down the snap ring, and you will be good to go.

 

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Js5ohLX said:

If your tranny is bone stock, yes it will come apart after time. There is a snap ring on the direct drive clutch drum that will blow off. If you have an experienced builder rebuild your AOD, then he will know to modify the drum to lock down the snap ring, and you will be good to go.

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If you only do it to 3000rpms is that true?
Accellerating to 3000, or decellerating to 3k (SP police )

 

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One of the worst things to do to a automatic tranny is to downshift it,, let it do it on its own,, upshifting is fine,, but downshifting is a no no,,,, Im not sure if this applies to a manual valve body,,,, and the AOD is a POS trans, I destroyed 9 of them before swapping in a C-4,,, Bee

 

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madonionrs said:

When I'm slowing down sometimes I downshift into D1 (<3000rpm)
Or other times I may put it in D1 and go 75% throddle until 3000rpm

I have a stock AOD w/ Cooler

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well, that's the whole purpose of that selector position.

Any tranny wear that might occur during these shifts can be minimized by holding the throttle open a bit just as you downshift, and closing the throttle before you upshift... just as you would if driving a nonsynchronized manual transmission.

 

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Ray III said:

well, that's the whole purpose of that selector position.

Any tranny wear that might occur during these shifts can be minimized by holding the throttle open a bit just as you downshift, and closing the throttle before you upshift... just as you would if driving a nonsynchronized manual transmission.

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What do you mean by holding the throttle open as downshifting?

 

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aod's are certainly the furthest out from the strongest tranny made.

Aod's are weak, and I wouldn't trust one as far as I can throw it. The lower gears are not there to shift around like a manual. The 2 is there for people in snow, so they can start out in a gear and have less wheel spin, and the o/d function is there for the freeway.

If you want to shift it like a manual, put one in, or spend the money to upgrade the tranny with a manual valve body, which will allow you to shift it that way all day long without breaking it.

 

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Or you could just get a Lentech Street Terminator Plus that holds 700 HP and not worry about wether it will hurt the trans or not. AODs suck? I havent ever missed a gear...how bout them 5 speeds?

 

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I rather not put any more $ into this car....
So, I'm going to stop down shifting..

 

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madonionrs said:

What do you mean by holding the throttle open as downshifting?

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when you downshift, the transmission has to force the engine to higher speed. It does this all the time, but if you are about to manually downshift, and step on the gas, the idea is that the engine will rev itself to the higher speed as the shift is taking place, rather than put the stress on the clutches.

AOD furthest out from strongest tranny made? Does this mean the dude should swap in an A4LD?

one thing for sure, you should have gotten a manual.

 

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Ray III said:

when you downshift, the transmission has to force the engine to higher speed. It does this all the time, but if you are about to manually downshift, and step on the gas, the idea is that the engine will rev itself to the higher speed as the shift is taking place, rather than put the stress on the clutches.

AOD furthest out from strongest tranny made? Does this mean the dude should swap in an A4LD?

one thing for sure, you should have gotten a manual.

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I really wanted one... but I was impatient.. and fell in love with this one

 

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v8only said:

aod's are certainly the furthest out from the strongest tranny made.

Aod's are weak, and I wouldn't trust one as far as I can throw it. The lower gears are not there to shift around like a manual. The 2 is there for people in snow, so they can start out in a gear and have less wheel spin, and the o/d function is there for the freeway.

If you want to shift it like a manual, put one in, or spend the money to upgrade the tranny with a manual valve body, which will allow you to shift it that way all day long without breaking it.

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There is no 2. You can't take off in second on an AOD. Stock, the tranny's are junk. With a couple of slight modifications, the tranny's are very strong. An AOD will outlast a T-5 any day. 5 speeds are fun, but you can't outshift a good AOD.

 

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Js5ohLX said:

There is no 2. You can't take off in second on an AOD. Stock, the tranny's are junk. With a couple of slight modifications, the tranny's are very strong. An AOD will outlast a T-5 any day. 5 speeds are fun, but you can't outshift a good AOD.

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aod's can be pretty bad ass when done up right. we almost did my bros 88 notch aod up, but ultimately he opted to row it himself, so we did a 5 speed conversion on his notch 2 weeks ago, boy was that a lot of work.


hey RAY 111, ya, forgot about the a4ld, lol, my first car was an 89 mustang 4 banger notch. Damn tranny went out at 45k. I got my first mustang-transmission experience at a very young age

 

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NYC LSC said:

AOD's are the strongest tranny out there.

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