Engine Windsor Water Pump Replacement

nelzfoxes · Jan 31, 2018

I just received my Ford made in China water pump in the mail. The water pump in the car now is new and leaked right away. I took it off again and attempted to seal it. Once again it leaked right away. I took off that plate and used form a gasket and put a new gasket between plate and timing cover that second time. I even used hi tack gasket sealant to keep the gasket in place. So here we are and I want the no doubt about it absolute lock it has never failed you method of installing and sealing a new water pump on your foxbody!

nelzfoxes · Feb 1, 2018

Ok. What about the steel plate that comes already bolted to the back of a new water pump? Do you guys remove it and add some sort of sealant? The new water pump comes with a gasket already sandwiched between the plate and pump.

General karthief · Feb 1, 2018

Never had to do anything to that part of the pump, where is it leaking from?

nelzfoxes · Feb 1, 2018

Alright. The brand new ford water pump leaked right away as well. I have determined that the paper gasket is wrong... all three times apparently. The gasket between the pump and backing plate is fine. It’s the gasket between the timing cover and backing plate that is not right. I researched it and the different rotation pumps have different port directions. The gasket they supply matches the most common timing cover. Apparently my uncommon timing cover needs a different gasket. I will try gasket maker to solve my dilemna. It is really upsetting when the water pump leaks while you add coolant for the third time. Ugh!

General karthief · Feb 1, 2018

Are you sure your water pump matches your timing cover?

nelzfoxes · Feb 1, 2018

It does... but in my research I just read that the ports can be mismatched between water pump and timing cover as long as the backing plate in use has the round holes and not the port specific cutouts. Also the gasket on each side of backing plate must match the ports. That is where I believe I failed.

Mustang5L5 · Feb 2, 2018

You are correct, most of the water pumps have the circular holes in the back cover. If that's the case, they it matters not what direction the timing cover water ports are angled.

I assume you are trying to install a M-8501-G351 water pump? They are all made in China these days and aren't really up to par in terms of quality. No different than going to autozone really.

nelzfoxes · Feb 3, 2018

Mustang5L5 said:
You are correct, most of the water pumps have the circular holes in the back cover. If that's the case, they it matters not what direction the timing cover water ports are angled.

I assume you are trying to install a M-8501-G351 water pump? They are all made in China these days and aren't really up to par in terms of quality. No different than going to autozone really.

Successs! The goop a gasket is holding!

nelzfoxes · Feb 3, 2018

nelzfoxes said:
Successs! The goop a gasket is holding!

I meant to add more to this. Yes, the ports don’t matter to the water pump when the backing plate has round holes. The ports DO matter to the gasket and both new water pumps came with the wrong gasket for my timing cover. I am at work right now and the Daddywagon powered by a 351 windsor made the 32 mile drive. So far... so good.
Here’s a pic from last night’s test drive.

General karthief · Feb 3, 2018

WHAT? No smokey 'roadkill' burnouts?

nelzfoxes · Feb 3, 2018

karthief said:
WHAT? No smokey 'roadkill' burnouts?

Haha! Well a burnout video was promised on another forum about four and a half years ago when the build started. As soon as I acquire an action video camera I will oblige.

General karthief · Feb 3, 2018

https://www.amazon.com/GoPro/pages/2529502011

nelzfoxes · Feb 10, 2018

karthief said:
https://www.amazon.com/GoPro/pages/2529502011

Thanks bud! I did go to amazon. I ended up with a cheaper than go but still expensive alternative

nelzfoxes · Feb 10, 2018

monte87 · Feb 26, 2018

Get yourself a Edelbrock HiFlow pump, the best investment. And always use permatex blue with WP's gaskets, also check to see if the 2 screw/bolts (varies upon WP vendor) aren't protruding out farther than stock. (2 screws/bolts that hold back plate onto pump) Had an issue with this one time on a pump. It created a bigger gap from WP to timing cover causing a leak on a new pump. I guess someone added there bolts onto pump and then sent back to summitracing and i ended up being the victim of there stupidity. Just swapped my original screws onto new pump back plate and was good.
Hope this helps, Ant

nelzfoxes · Feb 26, 2018

Thank you for the info. The job is done and I have been driving the car for about 3 weeks now. I actually just used gasket in a tube because of the rare timing cover setup.

monte87 · Feb 27, 2018

nelzfoxes said:
Thank you for the info. The job is done and I have been driving the car for about 3 weeks now. I actually just used gasket in a tube because of the rare timing cover setup.

Good to hear!!!

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