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yet another cam question

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I,ve been searching the threads for awhile now and have yet to find a exact answer. I have a NON ho 302 with the E6se heads. First off I tossed out the heads, pistons, and 14 lb injectors. What i,ve got now is Ported and decked e7s, 65mm tb & EGR plate, typoon intake, 19 lb injectors, KB signature flat top pistons, new FRPP crank with forged rods, FRPPs maf conversion and main harness and 1 5/8 shorty headers. For the most part a stock HO setup with a few bolt-ons. I don't plan on reusing the non ho cam in my new engine. For my set up an stock HO cam should work rather well. So , question is, What cam is equel to or might work better than a Ford HO cam in this engine ? I'll be running an aod as well. Also this car will probably never see the track
 
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firing order is different than a ho motor, so youll have to ask around but i dont think an ho would even work in that motor. im sure you could have found a used ho out of a wrecked mustang and had all those parts for close to 200 bucks.
 
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ho and non ho cams do interchange, all you have to do is change the spark plug wire locations and your set. As far as buying a wrecked mustang and parting it out. I could have saved alot of money by doing this but why?? All of my parts are brand spankin new with absolute zero miles on them. The only thing that isn't shiny right out of the box is the block which is getting cleaned and punched out .030 over. Sloppy seconds aren't my thing
 

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venom - he's running a FRPP maf conversion - that means an HO computer.

I'd suggest just using the HO cam -- it's quite flexible and capable of supporting good power should you ever decide you want to upgrade heads/intake/exhaust further.
 
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Thats what I,ve been told before. I want the HO cam. Problem is I think Ford discontinued the part, I don't know the orig ho cam specs ( lift,duration, etc) and I am unsure on which aftermarket cam to go with. I'm sure that one FRPP,s cams is a direct replacement. Perhaps other aftermarket cams will work better with my set up, but which ones?????
 

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There's no need to get a new one from Ford -- hit the classifieds here and at the Corral.net. There are MANY of them - most times they're given away for shipping costs. And because they're rollers, you needn't worry about flat tappet break-in/matching lifters to lobes, etc. -- just a new set of roller lifters and away you go.

FRPP definitely DOES NOT have a direct replacement for the HO cam - For the 5.0L there's are all performance related, and most will absolutely KILL low end performance for one that's mostly stock like yours. Don't be pulled to the Dark Side (E, B, etc.).

Stock cam for 85-88 was 266/266 advertised duration, .444" lift with stock 1.6 ratio rockers; 89-95 was 276/266 and same lift as the other one. Despite the greater advertised duration on the intake side, the earlier cam is the desired one - although there's not a great deal of difference between the two.

Some tout the 'baby Crower' as a good replacement cam -- I think the number is 15510; alternatively the CompCams XE258 should be a good stock replacement cam. But with either, you're probably gonna need to go with something other than the stock E7 valve springs.
 
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Thank you Michael. Its good to finely get some numbers on this. I'll do some more reserch and thanks again for steering me away from the "Darkside" . I'd hate to buy a cam that won't agree well with my engine setup.
 

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Those advertised duration numbers relate to duration at .006" lift -- the .050" duration numbers aren't published, but info from those who have measured say the stock cams are in the 210 degree .050" duration range.

If you stick with something that's in the 208-215 .050" duration range and with lifts at .500" or less; LSA in the 114 range - you should be happy with the results. Just be sure and get the appropriate valve springs to go with your cam choice.
 
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