[email protected]. WTF!!! I hate my life.

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Okay, most of you know that I was going to the track tonight. I took out as much stuff as I could from the inside of the car. I have brand new 285 BFgoodrich tires. Why the hell did I run a [email protected] ****ing mph. And it only got worst from there. I next run was a 15.3@93 and I lose to a 2003 Honda accord that ran a 15.2 :damnit: ****ing bastard. Then I raced a fox body, that I beat twice. I ran two 15.1's at 95mph. That was the only highlight of my night. My trap didn't seem that bad on those runs. My 60's were anywhere from 2.3 to 2.4. I don't understand my they are so bad. I have an ADOE so its not hard to launch. I really think I need a tune. My car felt like **** until 3rd then it would start going. Any ideas why? Nik did you ever see me run? How bad did I spin? My car seemed dead in 2nd gear. It just started today. Can anyone help me? I ran a 14.6 last year and that was without the cobra intake manifold. Oh and my last run of the time was a 15.5. I just left after that. And stalled the whole way home.

Dustin :(
 
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Hell Dude, Wanted to drive mine off South Mountin after that string of 15.0's. Try some Rear Control Arms if you haven't already. Hopefully i can figure out my cars slowness, so people will stop Cringing when they ask me what it runs. It ran 14.5 bone stock, and now 15's with all this? Granted it's 96 degrees and well past midnight, but yours even ran quicker. I had just about no 1st gear out there, but excuses excuses...(Scotty Voice) "She gave it all she had Captian"
 
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Tonight seemed like a bad night. 01 Cobra's running low 15's, me running high 15's.

Wait until the temp gets to 70* and the humidity isn't 33%. You should see much better times.

Stupid monsoons are screwing with us.

Your 60' times are pretty crappy (so are mine, 2.360 was my best). Much more practice, some DR's and suspension work should do the trick.

:rlaugh:

So I pull this nice 60' time, and when I was in 2nd gear, my gas pedal broke off!!! Stupid plastic POS. I guess my lead foot turned into hydraulic press foot. :rolleyes:

I was just getting the hang of launching too. I was getting 2.6's. Time for some forged pedals. :nonono:

Sie la vie.
Scott
 
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wow man that is sloooo. Maby you should think of tranny mods to keep up with that motor? i cant see how you lost power with an intake expect that it shifterd your power up, rpm wise and your tranny is short shifting b4 it gets to the power. i know a higher stall converter will do wonders
 
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Superdust,

I don't know what you were expecting, but with 60 foot times like that and your mods, you won't see anything better than mid 14's.

I had almost the exact same mods as you (Cobra Intake, Gears, Exhaust, Pullies, etc...) and after a couple trips to the track on street tires, but my run was only a 14.5 @ 97. Drag radials got me down to low 14's.
 
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Just a thought, but there is a chance that since you removed a good bit of weight, the converter's flash point is a lot lower now. Stock, I think the AODE stalls to ~1800rpms, when you lighten a car you move this DOWN, so it may stall now at say 1400rpms... this is bad for the launch. This may VERY WELL be your problem. Check with other AODE owners to see what they say. I don't know if the AODE is subject to this liek the older AOD's are. I know a guy that this happened to with a fox body. His stall speed was set at around 2800, but then he did a tubular K member, manual steering, gutted the car, etc and the converter would only flash to like 2100 or so and it hurt at the track.


Also, if the tranny is still shifting at its stock shift RPM, you will not see all the benefits of the intake and such as they move power UP in the rpm range... if the motor never gets into those RPM's you won't see the full effect of the increased breathing up top.
 
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Yeah it was hot last night. It had to been about 100 from like 9-10pm when we were running because it was 96-97 went I got home at 12. What was the humidity last night? I was wanting to run a 14.5-14.6 last night. After going though all my timeslips I could only have found my 14.8 from last year. I could have sworn that I ran a 14.6. But if I can't find it then it didn't happen. So since that 14.8 I added the cobra intake, shortbelt and other little things. I wanted a 14.5-14.6. I tried launching a few different ways. None seemed to work they were all the same. I think my timing is really messed up right now. Can I drive the car with the spout connector off? Killer I never knew the converter could change its stall like that. So when you order it you have to tell them the weight of your car? I will have to look into it. And it car is running bad an again today. A very rough idle. Any ideas. It's also keeps stalling.

Dustin
 
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yellow5.0cobra said:
everytime im at the track, the mustangs have THE WORST times.

meanwhile a lot of the other type of cars are running just fine.

regardless of 33% humidity and other lame excuses.

no offense guys...
Click to expand...

I know what you are saying. The mustangs did run the slowest last night. That still doesnt explain why I ran slower than last year with more done. It's not like I forgot how to drive.

Dustin
 
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Ok so if the humidity and temperature Doesnt play a role in how an engine performs. Well then why do turbocharged cars have intercoolers. I mean if they werent trying to cool that incoming air to produce more efficient power. Whats the point of the intercooler? Looks?? Its a proven fact that weather plays a very very minor role in a cars peformance. Thats why they make cold air intakes. And a true cold air intake replaces the point in which it extracts the cold air. Versus the stock location. And Theres the whole Ram Air thing. But i wont get into that. I have to agree with you in a way. Weather doesnt have a major effect but it still does in a small way. Now a bad launch. That nipps us in the arse in a worst way way then weather.
 
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superdust.

what i wanted to tell u before but i had to run was...

strap the car on the dyno, play with fuel pressure/timing, get it right on the A/F... then learn the shift points.

the more you do to a car, the different the car gets. so if ur driving it as if it was stock, forget it!

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1slick5.0-

dude, your comparing apples to oranges.

Humidity doesnt really make a difference on bolt on vehicles. We arent pushing any boost, we dont have alocohol fuel to tune with...

The reason us boost guys run intercoolers is not because of humidity, it is because of the intake temp of the turbo/supercharger. They COMPRESS the air, which means, it becomes hot. And with a turbo, the exhaust turbine spinning on the other side doesnt help much.

You can run with no intercooler easily, you still wont experience problems until 10psi or so.

I can go on and on...
 
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I wasnt trying to step on your toes yellow5.0cobra. Ive just noticed personally that when we run our cars at the track and its a alot warmer and humid out. We usually bump our timing up a little bit to compensate the the temp change. Which in turn helps us out. Which may not work for everyone depending on there setup. But if it werent for the temp difference we wouldnt have to do that. Everyone has there own tricks. What works for me might not work for someone else
 
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Thats good to hear. It sounded like u wear pissed. I just didnt want to make another fellow stanger upset. I would say we need to unite with all these damn ricers. But i think were in the clear until they start making V8 Civics
 
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no chip, unless you dont plan on adding things to ur car anymore.

just get her on a dyno with air/fuel and play with timing and fuel pressure(aka if you dont have an adjustable one, buy one).

you will def pick up a few ponies guaranteed.

I had my friends 91 lx 5.0 with HCI, he made 281hp, after playing with fuel and timing, we made 320rwhp and i forgot the TQ rating.

it was an eye opener, but we didnt burn a chip, just pulled outta the dyno and ripped it back home.

dont expect a huge power gain, but it helps some.
 
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Im telling you Its the weather. I have a friend that is a bracket racer. He has a 89 mustang GT auto, He knows his **** about bracket racing. He as this computer that measures density, altitude, relative humidity, barametric pressure, and temperature. He runs low 14.7's in winter and 15.0's in the summer time.. depending on the weather. He says that firebird has a lake there that really makes the humidity worse. He also says that the density altitude and humidity are the major factors in making his car run slower. Im not really a genius in this section, but he sertainly knows quite a bit about bracket racing, and he usually is dead on his dial in. By experiance i have seen my car run 2-3 tenths slower in the summer time when it is really hot.
 
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