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14.9@94.08mph. WTF!!! I hate my life.

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SuperDust22 said:
Can I drive the car with the spout connector off?
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Anyone?
 
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I don't know man, When I first got my car (94 gt 5 speed stock w/ no cats and flows dumped) I ran a 15.3 with stock tires. And I spun through the 60-foot. Is your car stock?
 
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SuperDust22 said:
Anyone?
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You can, I have done it. But the car will run like crap. Just like on carburated motors. Like on vacuum advance distributors, it will not adjust the timing on the fly. Timing is everything.
 

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It wouldn't give you any performance gains. You would only lose performance.

What I mean is that the computer assumes a 10* timing advance, and adds timing as a function of rpm/load/etc. If you were to set your dist. timing at 30* & remove the spout it would only be optimal at very high rpm's (i.e. 4800rpm's or something). A static timing is not a good idea.

Anything lower then that (RPM wise) would be too much timing and would likely lose torque throughout the rpm's.
Scott
 

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removing spout is ok on boosted cars(depending on the situation)

basically, you can run 15*'s, but it will only stay 15*'s and not advance anymore.
 

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yellow5.0cobra said:
Humidity doesnt really make a difference on bolt on vehicles.
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Sorry. Gotta throw out the flag on that one.
 

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33% humidity is nothing to make any serious performance difference.

What I was saying is that it will not make you lose A LOT OF ET as was proclaimed to happen.
 
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What about the heat how much does that effect things?
 
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Okay when I was setting my timing. I set the base timing to 16 then when I put the spout connector on it when to 22-23. Does that sound right?
 

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You will be OK when the conditions are nice. Heat and humidity will affect your runs so don't be disappointed. My car is capable of low 12's and my wife runs 15's in it ending up in 5th gear at the end.
She used to be pissed but she has improved lots since then. Don't be frustrated just correct yourself everytime.
I had Cobra intake, Bassani headers, BBK O/R H, MAC cat back, 65mm tb, 75mm maf, BBK CAI, MSD 6A, Centerforce, Steeda Tri-ax, 3:73's and ran 14.02 @ 98. That was my best time and I could never get over 100 mph or under 14.02 and I hated my car! My car is heavier but still I wanted 13's and did not get them until I added n2o (12.78 @ 109)
 
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Heat is a big factor. The cooler the air the more denser it is. And the cooler your car runs the more timing you can put into it before it detonates.
 

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yeah Dustin. You are just sayin it goes up to that when you plug it back up. So it'll actually advance more than that at WOT.
 

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94SC50 said:
My car is heavier but still I wanted 13's and did not get them until I added n2o (12.78 @ 109)
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Dude! That is one of the NICEST looking engine bays I have EVER seen!!

You guys gotta see this!

http://www.jrfuller.com/94SC50-motor.html
 

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Katmandu said:
Dude! That is one of the NICEST looking engine bays I have EVER seen!!

You guys gotta see this!

http://www.jrfuller.com/94SC50-motor.html
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Thanks man
Peeps here are tired of seeing pics of my car!
 

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Katmandu said:
Dude! That is one of the NICEST looking engine bays I have EVER seen!!

You guys gotta see this!

http://www.jrfuller.com/94SC50-motor.html
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:OT: my friend, we have all seen it several times over Stick around for a few days and you will have too! I bet most of us have even shown it to people we know. I know every time I'm shootin the chit with a car guy I'm like "man you gotta see this thing" and we scoot on over to his site and check it out. Search for the thread where a model requested to use his car in a shoot... I think 1105 called it car **** and I agree. I have also pimped Oink's and Killer's rides as well.
 

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what do you guys mean by "spout"???
 

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AHHHHHH. thanks for the info
 

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what do you guys mean by "spout"???
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It is what you pullout to set timing or to lock your timing at a specific degree. It is located on the TFI wiring.

 

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until they start making V8 Civics
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were makin a rwd v8 crx this year in my motorsports class
 

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My 60's were anywhere from 2.3 to 2.4. I don't understand my they are so bad. I have an ADOE so its not hard to launch. I really think I need a tune. My car felt like **** until 3rd then it would start going. Any ideas why? Nik did you ever see me run? How bad did I spin?
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I don't get it... you were hitting 2.3 - 2.4 60ft and you don't know how bad you were spinning? But then you agree about the stall speed information that Killercanary was talking about. What KillerCanary was saying was it would stall LESS.... meaning you most likely weren't spinning at all. Don't assume that street tires + mustang = wheel spin. ESPECIALLY in an AODE.

When I switched to my Cobra Intake, I didn't gain in the 1/4 mile ET either. But I did trap more as you say you did. The reason.... as stated by others in here, we've moved our power curve UP... which makes our cars bog out of the hole and basically kills our low end grunt to get us moving. I would be willing to bet you didn't spin one bit. My car doesn't.

Tell me how you are launching.... I'll tell you what I do differently and what works for my AODE.... try if you like, maybe it'll help you as well. Either way... WATCH YOUR SPEEDO WHEN LAUNCHING....and watch your tach!!! That will tell you if you are spinning or not and you will have the keys to the city when you figure that out.

BTW - I recently bought a bigger stall as recomended by my tranny guy. Now I'm on my 3rd one! The first one sent we assume was a truck stall. It stalled at 1k rpm. I gained a half second at the track... back to a 15.3 with a 2.4 60ft. NO SPINNING.

The owner custom built a stall for me and dyno tested it personally. Guess UPS dropped the damn thing cause it worked for 60s and 10-15 feet before the stator started shreading inside. Shinny glitter in the fluid. It did stall nice though! So I have hope....

I'm suppose to get the 3rd replacement this week and a refund of $125 for the trouble and tranny fluid I've wasted. My club has the local track on the 22nd and I hope to test it out that night along with some stickies.... if this one is bad, I'll race on the stock stall. My car should hit a 14.5 and a 12.9 or faster.

Explain your launches in detail and I'll reply if you want.
 
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